ted_reyes

Which body will you use? I have both lenses and am extremely happy with both. However, the 70-200 2.8 is a bit heavy for non mono/tripod work. I use a monopod to shoot soccer with mine. For an outdoor wedding where one is sitting apart, one could use the 70-200 f2.8 or f4 for spontaneous distal images.

 

How do you like your Tokina @ 80? The 85mm does not give much more tele benefit though it is an extremely sharp and fast lens.

If you are on the West coast, try Fry's. I got mine from them in May for $1350 when B&H was out of stock.

You may wish to put off your purchase until March in the event that Canon announces new technology. Potential for 10D price down and/or new technology to double.

May I suggest the 50mm f1.8 and another alternative; either the 85mm 1.8,100mm f2.0 or the 100mm f2.8macro. These are all superior quality lenses that one can use for a long time. Zoom with your feet on the long end. If you need to add for wider view, one can purchase the 17-40 or another prime. On the long end the 70-200 f4 or f2.8 will be waiting.

 

Enjoy, TR

I really enjoy my 10D and 70-200 f2.8L w/o IS. Have not found a need for IS but then I take most photos outdoors in San Diego with ample light. My principle pictures are of youth soccer. Previously, I used a Elan II with 100-400 f4.5-5.6L. I greatly prefer the images that the 70-200 provides and while it is a bit shorter, the images produced are superior. The 10D also provides 3FPS w/ an 8 image buffer thought with RAW acquisition, the buffer seems like it is less than 8. Along with the 70-200, I have a 24 f2.8, 50 f1.8 and 85 f1.8 which I have fun with when not shooting sports.

 

 

Attached is a picture of the Blue Angeles taken at the long end of the 70-200.

Take a look at the Tokina AF 28-70mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro SV. Better speed than the Canon consumer lenses mentioned and well rated by Photozone at 4.40; Canon 28-70L rates at 4.63 and 24-85 rates @ 2.88. B&H price for Tokina is $249 after rebate. I have tried this lens and own the older version anm am satisfied with images. The AF is slower than my Canon lenses which are all USM. The Tokina is compatable with 10D, Elan 7 and Elan IIE.

 

Regards, TR

To save money and obtain quality, an option could be to buy:

1. 17-40L or 24 f2.8

2. 50 f1.8 - Cheap build but good glass @ $70

3. 85 f1.8 - I love this lens @ $330

4. 70-200 L4 - I have the 2.8 and wish I'd purchased the F4 for its size as I take outdoor sports typically @f8.

 

Instead of considering the 80-200 for weight savings, look at the 100-300 f4.5-5.6; better quality and additional length or a 1.4 extender as the f4 is not heavy.

 

If you are set on a consumer zoom, take a look at the Tokina 28-80 2.8. There are two versions and both IMHO take nice pictures on the 10D. One goes for a little over $300 @ B&H and the other is about $575

Steve,

 

Thanks for the comparison. It does show less noise. Does the plug in work for Photoshop Elements? What was the cost?

 

The comment about less expensive "L" glass is appropriate. My understanding is that the F4 has the ability to produce images equal to the F2.8. Almost wish I had one instead of the F2.8 due to its size.

 

Regards, TR

Jay,

I starting shooting youth soccer when my sons were seven as well. We started with my AE-1 and Vivitar Series 1 70-210 F3.5; moved to an Elan II and a USM 100-300 for the AF. Here in SoCal with good light, this lens produced very nice images @ F8. I now use a 10D and 70-200L F2.8 which I really like!!!

 

The 70-200 will work well for you on either body since your son will be on a small field until he reaches U11. Youth soccer also allows one to go anywhere on the perimeter of the field to take pictures so you can be on top of the action. I just purchased a Canan 2X to get better midfield action from the end line. It arrives next week from B&H.

 

One key benefit I receive from the 10D is that I can take 100 to 200 images per match and better sequences @ 3FPS with the 8 frame buffer. Alot of throw aways but at no cost. The other is that it is easy to switch from F8 to 2.8 and shift the ISO to 100 when it is very bright.

 

Have fun, Ted

Barry,

I can't comment on the quality of the Sigma lenses but, how fast does the AF work? For sports (I take youth soccer pictures every weekend), the Sigma may be too slow. I use the 100-300USM 4.5-5.6 on an Elan II and a 70-200L 2.8 on my 10D. Rented the 100-400L for the Elan II which produced nice photos. My Tokina 28-70 AF is too slow for fast action (indoor soccer) though I like the non sports photos it produces.

 

Regards, Ted

Any help for the EOS Elan 7 / 33manual in Spanish is appreciated.

 

Thanks, Ted

Toine,

 

If the weather does not cooperate, my suggestion would be an exotic bird store. Birds and the toys in their cages have a wide band of colors. I used our Red Bellie Senegal with his toys to set up parameters in my 10D to my liking.

 

We used the 10D on our first non soccer opportunity at the zoo and it was alot of fun with both our kids and animals.

 

Have fun! Ted

Steve,

I shoot soccer on a 10D exclusily using the 70-200 f2.8L except for team pictures when I switch to a 28 f2.8. 70-200 f2.8L works great on a monopod!!! When I save enough, I'll buy a longer prime. Very happy with many of the pictures from both lenses. These are outdoor in SoCal which gives me the opportunity to stop down to f8 when desired.

 

Before purchasing the 10D, I rented a 100-400L to use with my Elan II. Try renting from a camera store to test which lens will work best in your situation prior to buying.

 

Additionally, I own a Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8ATX Pro which works well for family pictures, zoo trips etc. I like the images but the AF is too slow for sports. Borrowed the 85 f1.8 USM which produced very sharp and colorful images.

 

Regards, Ted

I use the Tokina 28-70 F2.8 and it works fine on my 10D for casual photos. The new $300 28-70 F2.8 Tokina made from composite material worked as well though I can not speak to its image quality as I just tested it for compatability.

 

Regards, Ted

C.G. and Jack,

Thank you for the info. My confusion occurred when there was a question on my laptop about configuring the computer connection. Looked all through the manual and could not find any reference to this configuration. In the past I transferred images automatically via the USB line so after clicking OK, the upload continued. The readme.text is confusing as well and just restates the pdf file. The instructions can be a bit nebulous but I made it through. On my way to take pictures and see if the focus issue is better.

 

I took over three hundred pictures at a soccer tournament recently. Some were out of focus in that, the player was not in focus but someone near him was. Many came out very nicely. The results were good overall and I could not state that my �out of focus� images occurred because of camera/sensor movement caused by panning or a 10D problem.

 

Thanks again, Ted

Where can one obtain the new 1.0.1 update? Is there significant

improvement over 1.0.0?

 

Thanks, Ted

I have Canon a 28 2.8, 70-200 2.8L as well as an older (three years) Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II. All three image well on a 10D with the L lens taking great soccer photos. I borrowed the new Tokina 28-70 ProSV and it took very nice images too. My advice for under $1000, go prime. 28 2.8, 50 1.4 and 85 1.8. 10D shows all mistakes.

Picked mine up a week ago at Fry's. Box open, 10% discount but when you add back in CA tax, it comes up to about $1500. They had three in their Torrance (LA) store last week.

 

TR

Doug,

We have a Tokina 270 AF ATX PRO II 28-70 2.6-2.8 that we use on an Elan 11E. works fine. I'm happy with the pictures. It also works I believe on my new 10D. Took some shots with it and they displayed on camera back.

 

Your other alternative may be the new Tokina 28-70 PRO SV. Lighter lens made of composites, took nice pictures on my sister in laws Elan 7. About 280 from B&H

Recently tried a Tokina 28-70 AT-X Pro SV. This is their new mid tier product. Pictures came out very nice. Price from B&H is $270. Compared with a 50mm1.8 which I would not buy because of its build quality (or lack of). My brother in law has an 85mm 1.8. Some of his pictures are fantastic but he wants versatility for P&S so he added the Tokina 28-70.

Thanks for the numerous responses.

 

1. What does the "Pro-SV" indicate on the Tokina.

 

2. I am biased against the 50MM 1.8 based on posts that ridicule its build quality. Is this bias unfounded or maybe, buying a 50MM 1.8 for a beginner is a good choice because of good optics, low initial cost and if it breaks, the cost is only $70.

 

Thank you again, Ted

What about the:

 

Tokina 28-70

 

Canon 24-85

 

Canon 50MM 1.4.

 

Each is about $300 @ B&H. All reputed to have very good optics though not to the extent as the Canon 28-70L.

I am looking for feedback on the performance of the

Tokina Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-70mm f/2.8 ATX "Pro-SV."

 

Two alternatives could be:

 

1. Canon 50MM 1.4

 

2. Canon Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

 

All are in the same $300 cost ballpark. The decision factors are

cost, quality and versitility. This is a gift for an new

photographer. Any other suggestions are welcome.

 

Thanks, Ted

You may wish to try a Tokina 28-70 Pro II. I have one on my Elan IIE and it works great for film. Got it for less than $450. Photozone results were within half a point of Canon L lens when I purchased.

 

When I purchase a D10 this summer, i plan to add a 70-200 2.8L for youth soccer pictures. It will replace the 100-300 USM which we use on the Elan II. Any thoughts?

Has any one tried the Tokina ATX 400/5.6 lens. Cameraworld price is $440. It received decent reviews from Photozone. I am looking for a lens for my wife's birhtday. She enjoys taking pictures of our children playing soccer in Southern California, normally sunny days.

 

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Thanks..Ted