dead_metaphor

Pleez...like nobody here has gone in debt for a new car which they don't "need." Glass houses etc.

If he shoots B&W, its still no contest. I've NEVER seen a B&W print from digital capture that comes close to the classic look of 35mm Tri-X. Cleaner? Yes. Sharper? yes. But better looking? no way.

Erwin should just join NASA and be done with it.

As an added bonus, it makes people in Africa look purple! how cool is that?

Love the pic on your invite.

 

Didnt know Leica or Xpan had a square format. ;-)

BTW, Neal, the VC lenses are uniformly excellent and a fantastic buy for the money. Coupled to the m6 you'll have a great rig.

M8 doesnt not equal the m5.

 

The m5 was, and is, the best camera Leica ever made. Not Leica's fault it didnt sell, just a fickle client base.

 

The m8, well......

I feel sorry for m8 owners. Clearly Leica will have to produce an m8.2 in short order. M8 owners will end up with a $5k paperweight. Who in their right mind will buy a camera on the used market that requires IR filters on every lens?

 

Thats crazy, and the level of denial on this board is off the charts.

"Leicaphiles seem to be mostly in denial, or minimize the extent of the problem. I am as big a fan as any of Leica's optics and their rangefinder cameras, but the flaws in my M8 were so glaring I can't even begin to fathom the levels of cognitive dissonance required to sustain a positive opinion of this train wreck in the making."

 

That says it all.

Keep on drinking the Kool aid guys.

 

$5000 for a camera that REQUIRES IR filters on every lens?

 

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Have another helping of the Kool aid, erwin!

Well, introducing another required lens surface essentially negates the superiority of Leica optics and thus kills that argument for using a digital M system.

 

What a lame excuse for a fix. My sense, cynical though it is, is that leica decided to take the cheap and easy route out b/c they think most of their clientele are kool-aid drinking snobs more interested in status than in a working camera. In any event, this speaks volumes about how Leica views its client base.

 

Brad has a good point: Do you seriously think Canon or Nikon would try to get away with this, of that any self-respecting pro would drag around lenses with IR filters permanently attached? NHever. Wouldnt happen.

 

If i was an M8 owner i'd be looking into a class action lawsuit against Leica for misrepresentation, fraud etc.

Does anyone take this guy seriously?

Anyone who can justify a "fix" for a $5000 camera that requires a red filter on any lens you use is in serious denial.

 

FWIW, i've owned more Leicas than I can count in the last 35 years, and I'll own a mechanical M till the day I die, but people paying $5k for a current M8 just prove the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted."

Isnt that a little excessive when any digital camera can be dedicated to IR with a simple sensor filter swap (digital sensors are typically sensitive to IR but the IR spectrum is blocked via a sensor filter)?

 

FWIW, I have a d100 dedicated to IR. the conversion costs $250 and creates a dedicated digital IR camera with normal ISO sensitivity and none of the drawbacks of film IR e.g. slow exposures, IR lens filters, lightless handling etc.

 

Go to www.lifepixel.com for more info.

Its the digital version of the Leica glow. Relax.

Whatever. I sure do love my Fuji GSW690III.

fuji gsw690III, with tack sharp 60mm fujinon, with VC 28mm auxilary viewfinder attached.

 

With it's 6x9 negs, it blows Leica prints out of the water, and you pay less for the whole setup than a much used m6 body.

^Agreed. No offense, bjut that's one horrible portrait. If your clients are buying those pictures, you've got some pretty peculiar clients!

B&H is essentially the best for everything.

....way too much sharpening....

Actually, i found ben's comments humorous. But thank you anyway, Gary Williams, for upholding PN self-righteousness.

were you able to observe the "glow?"

fuji gsw690iii

 

mamiya 7

 

mamiya 6

 

fuji ga645

 

leica m4

 

hexar rf

 

Zeiss Z1

Konica Hexar rf. as good as the m7 at 1/5th the price.