nathanael_galler

Alison, I had the same experience with the original Minolta Software - Silverfast is a MUST!

 

Excellente Scans (with Negatives). Far better also than Vuescan...

Sorry, my bad english - two different opinions...

An interesting explanation, Stepan. So you have two different meanings...

 

Or did I understand something wrong?

 

However, why this difference between Photoshop and Irfanview concerning my sRGB-file? (by the way when I convert into my monitor profile, all is alright - but I think this is not allowed...)

Just a theroretical question.

 

When I installed my new monitor profile (by Gretag Eye-One) colors

changed, in I-Explorer as well as in Irfanview. But now I hear that

they don't work with color management and ICC-Profiles at all...

(Strange)

 

But my biggest problem is that Photoshop and Irfanview don't get

along with each other since I have my monitor profile. Converted in

sRGB the Photoshop-picture looks pale in Irfanview. If I save the

sRGB-profile or not - it doesn't matter.

 

So please someone give me a guide out of this color management

jungle... - and explain the CM with a professional monitor profile in

I-Explorer and Irfan.

 

Thanks

 

Nathanael

Brandon, can Internet Explorer or Irfanview work with this monitor profile? There seem to be differences between Photoshop and Irfan (at least at my screen)...

 

This is important for photographs for web...

In which program are you open the scanned images? After long time problems with color shift between preview and Phothoshop, I make all adjustements now in Photoshop. Maybe a question of gamma (set it to 2.0)?

Thank you!

You have to buy a professional calibration tool. Your monitor is too bright - your prints show how the picture really is...

Since I have a professional monitor profile my 'web pictures' also have a lack of colour. Althought I convert the picture in Photoshop to sRGB and 8-bit - which is a must -, the look in Irfanview is totally different. :-( Can't explain that...

Old Toshiba Satellite, but the LCD is ok ;-)

sorry, not different levels of the histogramm, of the gradation curve of course...

First: Silverfast is the best choice for negatives.

 

Then: You have to play with contrast and brightness at different levels of the histogramm (at best in all three color channels), then you get the PERFECT image. scan the negative raw with 48 bit (although with correct settings in negafix/part silverfast) and make all corrections in photoshop - so you have perfect control and can make changes everytime.

 

Of course you have to cut empty tracks of the histogramm before...

Gradation and contrast changes by your wishes...

I thought of this compatibility problem especially because of the brightness of the LCD... *smile* Maybe all colors are right and all differences clear but because of the 'washed out'-look of my monitor I'll maybe make my pictures oversaturated. I don't know if this is a totally successful calibration...

 

Maybe I'm just frightened...

Beau and Ellen, thanks for this information (i'm somehow relieved) - but is there not a compatibility problem to other users and agencys: I mean, are my pictures (when I improve them on my monitor) not oversaturated in their eyes?

 

Mark, many thanks for your good advices!

 

The good thing: Colors are pale, but more brillant (more subtility in pictures)...

Hi

 

After calibrating my monitor (LDC, Notebook) with Gretag Macbeth Eye-

One pictures are somehow pale... Not just mine also the ones in the

web (fashion, art etc.) I calibrated in the "easy mode" as well as in

the "extended" mode (native whitepoint, 2.2. gamma) - with the same

result. Pictures are also a bit yellowish, white is not pure white.

 

Some ideas? I can't believe that this pale mode is the international

color standard (much less saturation as in magazines)...

 

Nat

Thanks! Are there more experiences?

Hi, I work with Minolta 5400 + Silverfast and there is just one ICE-Option (unfortunately). 'Cheap' means more into the direction of an ordinary lab-print - less clarity, excellence, brillance.

 

Greetings

Nat

Just a question for the profs: Are you scanning with ICE on or off?

At first it seems to me that it makes the picture "cheaper", so I

made all in Photoshop. But now I see that this is a lot a lot of

work... *sweat*

 

What is the professional way (for optimal picture quality)? What are

youre techniques to "fight" with the dust (from the beginning)? ;-)

 

Nice Greetings

 

Nathaniel

I have much better results now with the newest Silverfast version and the latest Minolta Scanware-Update (don't know which one makes the difference...).

 

But the color shifts are still there... (when I choose ICM as Monitor output)

 

Thank you for your answers.

<First of all, try scanning your film upside down and turn off all dusk & speckles and all extra processes. I usually do all my cleaning of the scan in PhotoShop, adjust levels, color balance and then print on an Epson.>

 

Tony, do you wanna say that ICE change the colors of the scan? Indeed I noticed that - but my color shifts are much worse! I really think it's a question of the monitor profile... On the other hand I think it's a sin to make the color adjustements not in Silverfast because it's so easy there! I really would like this...

 

<Have you posted to the Silverfast message board?>

 

I did, Jeff. But they all seem to be robots there - give super minimalistic answers, which are not satisfactory at all (don't give answers to the questions).

 

<I wouldn't be surprised if Silverfast and Picture Window Pro are using different monitor profiles, which can cause disastrous results. Or one has color management on, and the other off.>

 

John, I would really be interested in which monitor profile Silverfast is using... (??) This would be the solution to my problem.

 

<With a large gamut color space like Adobe RGB, small configuration errors cause large problems.>

 

What do you mean with that?

Hi

 

Another color management problem, which makes me angry and helpless

since two weeks. It has to do with Silverfast. I�m very happy with my

adjustments in Silverfast Ai 6.0 (for Minolta 5400) and when I look

at the scans in my graphic program it�s all sh**. Photoshop is too

heavy for my poor notebook (only to start overtax my working memory),

so i work with Picture Window Pro, which is easy and also easy to

use. Color space is right (Adobe RGB, like my profile in Silverfast)

and I think also all others adjustements. But it don�t work! The

colors are poor and greenish � which makes me asking: Can the program

handle Adobe RGB at all? Is Silverfast just compatible with

Photoshop? I don�t understand why my monitor (without a profile at

all) can show all the colors in the Silverfast preview picture � but

can�t outside of Silverfast at all... With which monitor profile is

the Silverfast preview working? So if i would know that, I could

install this profile in my Picture Windows Pro...

 

Guys, I don�t think it�s a problem of the monitor � because

Silverfast can show me all colors well.

 

Where are the experts?

 

Help is highly appreciated � it helps me for getting loss in

desperation...

 

Sorry for my poor english (not my native language).