maxhaynes

Peggy, it is a bother to others because you are "requesting a critique" when you aren't

really requesting a critique. If I want repost photos that have previously been in my

folders but were pulled I certainly don't want to ask people to recritique them. That's just

one example.

Oh, and while I'm wishing, if you insist on anonymous ratings, could you please, please,

please make it so we can shut ratings off an image without asking for a critique? I would

like to upload a group of images and I don't want to bother people with dozens of critique

requests when all I'm looking for is protection from anonymous ratings.

I think it would be great to be able to collect other people's pictures that you like in

folders. We have a version of this in our highest rated images, but I think it would be great

to have folders for particular genres and that sort of thing. People could look at other

people's folders for interesting insights into their likes and the user could create a catalog

of particular types of images. I just saw a wonderful image of a smiling frog in a person's

hand today, I would like to put that in a folder called 'humorous' Since I hate to rate

anonymously, there is no way to "keep it". I have no idea how hard this would be though.

Anyone else interested in this idea?

With all due respect Peggy, since you are not a photographer, just a great judge of

photography, I'm not sure you would understand the needs or wants to just show your

work, whether anyone comments or not. I am certainly influenced by everything I see

here, not just the work I comment on, (I don't rate anymore) and I want other people to see

my work and be influenced by it. The 'critique only' choice is a poor substitute for owned

ratings.

Hi Brian, I'm wondering what I did wrong in prepping this image-

http://www.photo.net/photo/2582430

It is horribly crumbled by compression. Can you tell me/us

what is the best procedure for submitting images?

This image was created in PS7 at 800 pixels wide and brought into

Image Ready and compressed at the "high" setting.

Thank you in advance.

Max

To me, the 'critique only' feature is doomed in it's current incarnation. If you don't submit

to ratings then you don't get your work seen in the top photos area. It is a backwater that

I doubt will fly but at least it's better than submitting yourself to anonymous ratings.

To me, aesthetics are like the surface of the cultural waters, always changing to suit the

volume and mixture of the culture that makes up the water but also that which rises to the

top and is recognized by the majority. Landscapes do well on P.net because all cultures

can recognize this common form.

Max

I confess! I have mates on photo.net! They come and see my work whether I ask for

critiques or not and they often inflate the number of ratings I would normally get! Course

for me that means getting an average of maybe 13 ratings instead of ten. Yes, I see

images on the top page that I don't think would be there if it weren't for the fact that the

person who posted them has made a lot of friends on photo.net. But I also see images of

boobs that probably wouldn't be there if they were men's boobs and landscapes of Italy

that probably wouldn't be there if it weren't for the fact that parts of Italy are incredibly

photogenic. There are many ways to get to the top of the ratings, having friends within

the photo.net community is just one of them. Who is to judge what images should be

seen more prominently? None of my images have ever made it to the front page and I

think they feature some very interesting aspects of photography that should be seen but

it's not about just merit, it's about popularity, popularity of themes or popularity of

techniques or popularity of people. Take away people's mates and you diminish the

community.

I believe the phrase "opportunity to connect" is an important one. Yes, I love pictures and

I love to show pictures but I come back to this site for the community. Take away all the

names and you diminish the sense of community. Sure there is revenge rating and people

who are engaged and engage others to rate their images beyond their due, but there are

also people working out differences and maybe getting a little education on world

cooperation.

Personally I hate it, I like to have people make their own decisions what to rate and not

rate and I know I'll get sick of inadvertantly reading those disclaimers everytime I look at

an image. It's overkill and it should be posted at the top of the general gallery pages but

not on people's photos, yuck. Was there any sort of opportunity to comment on this idea

BEFORE you commited yourselves and all of us to it?

So, uh, is the site always going to be this slow? Is this it or are you folks expecting a great

leap in performance sometime soon?

Your work is very good Rusla, you have to expect the Joe Shander and �]�Z crowd are

always going to give low ratings, it's how they operate but it's not a reflection on your

work, they rate everyone that way. You just have to expect that and go from there.

Wouldn't it be great to have a gallery of presentations? The essay form is really

underrepresented on p.net and if there was an easy way to see presentations, I think

more people would do them.

I posted an answer to this last night but it didn't register I guess.

My response to your idea, Alec, it that I hope folks are creating their best art for

better reasons than to get to the top of the P.net ratings chart. That said, I'll reiterate

my original comment, which was that I don't think this image should remain in the

halls of the best pictures ever rated for long so that deserving images will take it's

place.

My 1/1 Pig Nose picture has had quite the adventure and obviously struck a nerve

with folks. It simultaneously resides at the back of the curator's selections and and at

the top of the ratings pile. I think it's been good for a lot of folks. However, I don't

think it should go into the pantheon of all-time ratings photos. I think in about a

week or so I should delete it from my portfolio so that doesn't happen. My concern is

this, I've seen spots in the line-up that just have little question marks and the

person's name below them. Is this what would happen? Can it be made that nothing

appears and we can just let it slide into history as an interesting notion?

Ah ha! Somebody set off the siren, we have just discovered a good critic that has no

photos!! Peggy, you're a very rare commodity on this site. This brings up an

interesting point though- since Peggy has no images she has nothing to protect from

retaliatory ratings. I have to admit that I'd be kicking butt and taking names on some

of this stuff if I feared no reprisal. I would hammer all the images that are in really

crude taste for starters but I probably wouldn't stop there, I'd want to do a little social

engineering by rating badly images that are soft porn, up-skirt photos, etc. etc. I

would be a monster without the restraint of having to "live" in the community. Peggy

not included, to me, it's those who rate without accountability who are the real

danger, whether they leave comments or not. Civility is what we are looking for I

think.