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<p>Cool the Photographic Historical Society of New England (PHSNE) show is at the Americal Civic Center, 467 Main St, Wakefield MA. The show is April 12 and 13. Two days makes for an impressive, but tiring, show. <br>

Interesting show is the Sprint Fair by the Photographic Historical Society of Canada. This year May 25 at the Soccer Centre, 7601 Martin Grove Road, Northwest of Downtown Toronto (Woodbridge). They group the old image dealers together. There is no early bird price. <br>

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<p>I, too, like to browse and talk to the vendors (a bit) and other buyers (a lot). I avoid occupying the vendors as some of them are very serious. </p>

 

<p>Who is attending their local camera swaps? I'm going to Kent WA and Vancouver BC in April. The size of these shows is great. Kent is a bit bigger but sometimes winds down earlier. It is earlier this year. The Vancouver show is a touch smaller but often selling is happening at 3PM. <br>

What is your local camera swap? When & where?<br>

<strong>KENT, WA</strong><br>

Puget Sound Photographic Collectors 34th Annual Camera Show & Swap. <br />Kent Commons, 525 Fourth Ave. N.; Kent, WA, Saturday April 12, 2014. <br />General Admission, $5.00 @ 10:00 am. <br />Early Admission, $15.00 @ 8:30, am<br>

Approximately. 150 tables of all things photographic: <br />cameras and lenses of all kinds from antique to modern and from subminiature to large format. <br />Images, accessories, and lots of miscellaneous. <br />Tables Available! <br />See http://www.PSPCS.org for more info<br>

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<strong>VANCOUVER, BC</strong><br>

DATE: 2014 April 27, Sunday<br>

GENERAL DETAILS: At the Cameron Recreation Complex, 9523 Cameron Street, near Lougheed Mall, Burnaby, British Columbia. About 100 tables with modern, collectible and antique cameras, lenses, tripods, studio gear, etc. At the Consignment table, experts will provide a free evaluation and sell it for commission.<br>

ADMISSION: $5.00, runs 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM – early bird $15.00 at 9:00AM.<br>

COMMENTARY: This is a great camera show. Professional camera buyers attend this show so should you. There are many sellers and buyers from British Columbia, Washington, Alberta, and much further e.g. Asia and Europe. It will be at the Cameron Recreation Complex where it has been since 2002. The line up prior to opening is out the door of the Centre. There is plenty of space for the aisles between tables. If you are considering renting a table please note 2013 and 2012 were sell outs.<br>

GETTING THERE: Cameron Street is the first east-west street north of Lougheed Mall. A ten-minute walk through the mall from the SkyTrain Lougheed Station or by 110 or 97 bus. There is limited free parking at the centre. Many more spaces on Cameron Street and across the street in the mall’s north lot.<br>

BANK MACHINE: Just across street at the Greater Vancouver Community Credit Union, 9608 Cameron St, with in and out privileges and a signalled cross walk you can there in back in minutes.<br>

WHAT MIGHT BE FOR SALE: New, used, vintage, and antique camera gear. Find that item you need be it accessory, book, camera, filter, flash, lens, memory card, tripod, etc. What is available varies but there will be a wide variety. Alpa - Argus - Arri - Bolex - Canon - Casio - Fujifilm - Hasselblad - Holga - Hoya - Kenko - Kiron - Kodak - Konica - Leica - Lensbaby - Linhof - Mamiya - Minox - Nikon - Noblex - Olympus - Panasonic - Pentax - Ricoh - Samsung - Seagull Camera - Schneider Kreuznach - Sigma - Silvestri - Sinar - Singh-Ray - Soligor - Sony - Sunpak - Tamron - Tiffen - Tokina - Toyo - Voigtländer - Vivitar - Zeiss - Zenit. Find a wide angle lens for your SLR, a Brownie with Holga like lens, a flash, a portrait lens, a new in box Canon zoom lens, etc.<br>

MORE INFORMATION: http://www3.telus.net/public/wcpha/show.htm<br>

BOOKING A TABLE: Call Siggi or Brigitte at 604 941-0300 or contact noblexcanada@shaw.ca</p>

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<p><strong>GENERAL DETAILS: </strong>At the Cameron Recreation Centre, 9523 Cameron Street, near Lougheed Mall, Burnaby, British Columbia. 120 tables with modern, collectible and antique cameras, lenses, tripods, studio gear, etc. At the Consignment table, experts will provide a free evaluation and sell it for commission. Admission $5.00, runs 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM – early bird $15.00 at 9:00AM.<br>

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<strong>COMMENTARY: </strong>This is a great camera show. Professional camera buyers attend this show so should you. There are many sellers and buyers from British Columbia, Washington, Alberta, and much further. However, there are folks who attend from China, Japan, Germany, and other countries. For the twelfth April in a row it will be at the Cameron Recreation Centre. The line up prior opening is out the door of the Centre. There is plenty of space for the aisles between tables. If you are considering renting a table please note more are sold out than last year.</p>

<p><strong>GETTING THERE: </strong>Cameron Street is the first east-west street north of Lougheed Mall. A ten-minute walk through the mall from the SkyTrain Lougheed Station or by 110 or 97 bus. There is limited free parking at the centre. Many more spaces on Cameron Street and across the street in the mall’s north lot.<br>

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<strong>ACCOMMODATION: </strong>Special rates at nearby Executive Plaza Hotel, 405 North Road.<br>

Reservations, 604-936-9399 or 1-888-433-3932. Mention the show when booking.<br>

<strong>FULL SERVICE COFFEE SHOP: </strong>Coffee shop with hot and cold food in lobby<br>

<strong>BANK MACHINE: </strong>Just across street at the Greater Vancouver Community Credit Union, 9608 Cameron St, with in and out privileges and a signalled cross walk you can there in back in minutes.<br>

<strong>WHAT MIGHT BE FOR SALE:</strong> New, used, vintage, and antique camera gear. Find that item you need be it accessory, book, camera, filter, flash, lens, memory card, tripod, etc. What is available varies but there will be a wide variety. Alpa - Argus - Arri - Bolex - Canon - Casio - Fujifilm - Hasselblad - Holga - Hoya - Kenko - Kiron - Kodak - Konica - Leica - Lensbaby - Linhof - Mamiya - Minox - Nikon - Noblex - Olympus - Panasonic - Pentax - Ricoh - Samsung - Seagull Camera - Schneider Kreuznach - Sigma - Silvestri - Sinar - Singh-Ray - Soligor - Sony - Sunpak - Tamron - Tiffen - Tokina - Toyo - Voigtländer - Vivitar - Zeiss - Zenit. Find a wide angle lens for your SLR, a Brownie with Holga like lens, a flash, a portrait lens, a new in box Canon zoom lens, etc.<br>

<strong>MORE INFORMATION:</strong> http://www3.telus.net/public/wcpha/show.htm<br>

<strong>BOOKING A TABLE: </strong>Call Siggi or Brigitte at 604 941-0300 or contact <a href="mailto:noblexcanada@shaw.ca">noblexcanada@shaw.ca</a></p>

<p>Thanks for sharing. Two very minor points.<br>

There is an error in your value for visual acuity. This is a dimensionless or angular measure. If you don't believe me that look at the equation you give. Since an F number is a ratio of dimensions it too is dimensionless. So the units on the righthandside should cancel out. If you make acuity a measure of distance they don't.<br>

<br />Your basics premise is the combination of depth of field and rangefinder error cancels. Basically as the rangefinder error increases with distance the depth of field compensates. While oft repeated I find this to be troubling for three reasons. One, in practice the details of such don't matter to most photographers. Two, it takes a simplistic view of depth of field which though very common isn't always so. Basically one needs to consider object space as well as image space. Three, it makes no allowance for infinite distance. The rangefinder error at infinite distance can't be a portion of infinity. So a more complicated theory is needed. But it isn't see One. </p>

 

<p>Blake --<br>

Your X-Ray photos of cameras are great. Have you considered selling prints?<br>

BTW I've always wanted a Hexar AF. Enjoy it.</p>

 

<p>http://www.buhla.de/Foto/batt-adapt-US.pdf<br>

See the above link for two ways to allow the RC to take a 1.55v cell. The RC has enough room behind the batter compartment that one can soldier the Schottky diode inline. </p>

 

<p>Measuing inflation is a hard thing to do for cameras. I have written about this problem for my local camera collecting club. I use the web site measuringworth.com as it provides a calculator USD and GBP over many years and uses much more than just CPI inflation. It is very useful.<br>

If you want to compare the value of a $468 Leica M3 w/50 'Lux in 1960 to 2010 there are all sorts of choices for inflation: CPI, Income, Relative Share of GDP, Cost of Money, etc. If you look at CPI the value is $3,450 after 50 years. If you look at income the value ranges from $3,970 (using the unskilled wage) or $4,870 (using production worker compensation). If you look at how the GDP of the US has grown you would need to have $12,900 in 2010 to have the same share of the US GDP as $468 in 1960. But if you want GDP per capita it is $7530. Cost-of-money is another consideration, that is, what would an investment in safe bonds have yielded over 50 years. Which I wish the website provided but does not. Each measure has its advantages. I argue that for the price of good production worker compensation is a good measure. As well, in the collectors market cost-of-money calculations are useful.</p>

<p>Knob rewind, lever rewind selector, self-timer so M3. It looked like 50/2 'cron by the scallops in the lens and size.<br>

The other camera was more interesting. It appeared have a selenium cell around the fixed lens. There was black plastic ridge surrounding the viewfinder and frame iluminator widows. Couldn't tell if it had a rangefinder window. The name was on front in black within the black ridge. It struck me as being anachronistic. Interested to know what it is.</p>

<p>Microscope slides plus valve grinding compound work great. Easy does it on the grinding b/c the compound wets the surface and makes it appear less scratched up. So go slow.</p>

<p>Sure, Marc made a clever reference to it earlier. <br>

Some Leica folks like to point out a famous Italian desinger in the Alessi family said of the Leica M that it one of the few designs of the 20th century so perfect he would never try to change it. Or words to that effect. It is often repeated and paraphrased but I am looking for the quotation and a source. </p>

<p>Marc, so you can provide it word-by-word then? Great. Please type it out here. Much appreciated.</p>

<p>Rick Oleson's notes may be helpful too.<br>

<a href="http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-30.html">http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-30.html</a></p>

<p>I am looking for the Alessi quotation on the Leica M system. I would be grateful for assistance. There are varying paraphrases of this the exact quotation or a part thereof. Also looking for which Alessi said it, when, and where is it was quoted. If in Italian that is fine.</p>

<p>As a teenager I had one of these or one that looked like it. I calibrated it as noted above using a distant image ~ 1 km. I then recalibrated it for the minimum distance. It took some adjustment to find the position that minimized the lack of overlap at both positions. Next I opened it up and cleaned it. Big mistake. I removed the semi-silvering of the beamspliter. Since then I have done the same on a different unit. However, when cleaning inside I touch the mirror, beamspliter, and coloured gels (if any) last. And then I test clean a corner first.</p>

<p>The i9 is an example of childish ideation, wrapped in jargon, and glossed over reference to products with a great design. There is no consideration of the function of the camera. What is the imaging device, where is it located, what are its physical parameters like back focal length, what is the image captured on, how is it processed, etc? What processing and storage functions are provided by the camera and which by the phone? Any kid can draw a picture, and consultant or professor can speak jargon, and claiming inspiration from devices that works are all things you can get for free. To create a mashup concept that does not contain any practical consideration of how to actually realize the product is is a waste of time. The designer does not need to be the engineer but the designer needs to have some concept how the device works. I see stuff like that and my first thought is no need to hire Black Design Associates until they can demonstrate the ability to design a real product. Mind you if they want to create the camera equivalent of internet anime porn go right ahead. It will give someone a rise.</p>

<p>Can some one elaborate on two comments above for me. Thanks.<br>

1) The use of lens coding "is primarily for lenses 35mm and wider when used with UV/IR filters." The use of the filter isn't encoded in the lens coding. So I guess the question is how is the lens data used in the colour correction?<br>

2) "Note that the aperture is NOT transmitted to the body, so you won't see that in EXIF data. You will see the widest aperture of the lens, however." Can't the M8 or M9 <em>estimate</em> the aperture by differencing an external light meter reading and the image intensity?</p>

 

<p ><a name="00YaoZ"></a><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=3882389">Mark Pierlot</a> wrote "It's true that there was a show here in Vancouver this past Sunday, and most of what was for sale was the same old "junk" we see year after year, selling at the typically <strong>uncompetitive prices.</strong> Sure, there is the odd gem or two to be had each year (it's an annual event), but the show so overcrowded with people and their detritus that the whole experience is decidedly unpleasant, at least for me."</p>

Evidently you missed the two proffesional camera buyer from Arizona and Montreal that came specifically to buy at the show. As for overcrowded it is a yearly event on one day what do you expect? Crowds are generally good for sellers and bad for buyers. But also good for buyers. If 20 people ask about the price of an item and none bite the seller knows it might be time to drop the price. But yes there some detritus that keeps coming back. However, that makes it fun. Of course I am biased. On Sunday I sold twice in dollar terms as I spent with none of my items over $20.

 

<p>From the photos it seems less well attended that I would have expected. Thanks for sharing your description and photos.</p>

<p>The show orgnizer just sent me a note. The show is more international than my post reflects. My reference to Alberta and Washington wan't meant to be exclusive. Buyers and sellers from across Canada. And American visitors from more states than Washington including New York. Visitors from Japan of course and China (Hong-Kong and Mainland China), as well as from several European countries.</p>

<p>This is a great camera show. Some nice vintage and antique stuff as well as plenty of newer manual cameras. Something for everyone often at a good price. There are sellers and buyers from British Columbia, Washington, and Alberta. For the tenth April in a row it will be at the Cameron Recreation Centre, 9523 Cameron Street, near Lougheed Mall, Burnaby, British Columbia. There are 120 tables and a sellout is expected. At the Consignment table, experts will provide a free evaluation and sell it for commission. Admission $5.00, runs 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM – early bird $15.00 at 9:00AM.<br>

<strong>MORE INFORMATION:</strong> http://www3.telus.net/public/wcpha/show.htm<br>

<strong>BOOKING A TABLE: </strong>Call Siggi or Brigitte at 604 941-0300 or contact <a href="mailto:noblexcanada@shaw.ca">noblexcanada@shaw.ca</a><br>

<strong>SPONSOR:</strong> The Western Canada Photographic Historical Association is the show sponsor. A non-profit BC society dedicated for over 30 years to the preservation and display of cameras and images. The association welcomes anyone interested in collecting cameras to our monthly meetings — held the FIRST TUESDAY of each month at 7:30 PM, in the basement of Alpen Club (restaurant and pub) 4875 Victoria Drive, Vancouver (at 33^rd Ave). It is in the large room west of the restaurant dining room. Non-members are welcome to bring items to sell at the <em>buy and sell</em> sessions held at the start of each meeting. Often there is a presentation and some show and tell. If you read this forum your probably enjoy being a member. We do have some members outside of Vancouver who enjoy our newsletter.<br>

<strong>MORE COMMENTARY</strong>: This show used to be twice yearly but now is only in April. Its size in terms of attendence and tables has been stable since 2003. However, there used to be three or four shows a year in Greater Vancouver then. Since 2007 there has really only been this show, and a similar but smaller one in November -- still in Vancouver. May there is a nice show in Victoria and of course the PSPCS swap meet in Kent and for a time in Puyallup. The Puget Sound show is big, interesting, and reasonably close. BTW if your club has a show coming up you may want to add it to this pretty <a href="http://www.antiquewoodcameras.com/shows.html">comprehensive list</a>.</p>

<p>Sorry what is an Epson EP-1? Do you mean Olympus PEN E-P1? That is a micro four-thirds camera. <br>

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I guess the M-mount module for Ricoh GXR system could be added to. </p>

<p>The Chinese Red Flag 20 by the Shanghai No. 2 Camera Factory could be added for completeness.<br>

As noted the M4-P is missing. The CL should properly be listed under Minolta and Leica. I think the Hexar Half Frame was called the "Hexar 72" but I have never seen one in person or print. What is a Leica M4A?<br>

Not sure what criteria you are using for inclusion and exclusion of various Leica models? If the Hexar 72 is to be included why note the M4-2 Half Frame?<br>

Try Camerapedia for lists.</p>

<p>I like the MS-MAG x1.35 or MS-MAG x1.15 from http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/</p>

<p> Bennett, glad you found my note an excellent reference. Mukul, thanks for linking to it. Sadly, I don't know when E41 was first used in the Summarit. I beleive it always was but I don't know for sure. Now some people take 39mm filters and bend the rings in three places to make them fit in 40mm lenses. That could be done here.</p>