ellis_jordan

Will emale you.

PS.

I posted the above on behalf of Mr. WAZ.

Christmas around the corner and with it all the joy. Here is a story

which perhaps, some of you will smile at.

 

Why not give some of my recent landscape photographs as Christmas

presents to my friends? While giving away prints, occasionally I

also suggest

that the recipient may buy additional print(s) at a reduced price if

he so likes. (I charge 150$ for a matted 11x14 B&W exhibition prints,

which is much below my standard price).

 

So I first showed my recent creations to a well to-do friend (who in

his own words collects 1000$/month in bank interests alone), and

suggested the above.

 

Well, he refused to purchase any print on the ground that he �did not

have any money�, but would gladly accept two of my 16x20 photographs,

providing that I make some modifications. He wanted the background

mountains as dark as the foreground, since, according to him, the

tonal rendition of the scene was not properly executed.

 

Yesterday, I was showing few prints in a PAPC photographic club here

in NY city(of which I am president), and received additional advise.

One guy did not like the curvature of the valley on the horizon and

wanted darker sky, then proceeded to question the horizontal stretch

and asked me to crop the picture vertically.

 

Still another gentleman, while looking at a different picture,

advised me to crop the sky since it was �uninteresting� for him.

 

My photographs are all 4x5 enlargements processed to highest

standards, entirely by me. They are products of much deliberation,

both before capture, during processing, and afterwards. I do not

scorn advise, and when I need it, I ask for it. However, the final

products are the final products.

 

These critics are at best photographic hobbyists, rather �point-and-

shooters�, who shoot color with plastic cameras and who have never

worked in either color or b&w darkroom themselves.

 

I have been an art collector, and knew many artists personally whose

paintings or drawings I used to purchase. Although I was paying for

the work it never crossed my mind to impose my ideas on them. I was

happy to choose the work which I liked most. On two occasions when my

portrait was about to be made and the artist asked me if I wanted it

in charcoal or color, I chose the pastels. Another time I suggested

that he makes �something familiar� as both of us came from the same

part of the country. That�s how far I would go with imposing my will

on someone else�s creative endeavors.

 

Of course, with a client the story is a different one. I will

except any order, for example to make a photo of a pink poodle,

providing that I deem assignment attractive and will get paid for it.

 

What to do? Simply ignore the nonsense, but wonder if any of you

have had related experiences?<div></div>

Use 1 to 2 stops lower speed than nominal for Microdol-X and undiluted for finest grain.

There has been a similar discussion in this forum before. Concentrated Rodinal stored for 40 years in a closed container is stiil fine!

Or simply you need a light-insulated bathromm and NO loader to load

your film

If you store it in a cool place you should not experience any problem.

What kind of papers, traditional, RC or both?

I have never heard about the need for fixing the prints after reducing them in a Farmers reducer. Washing is sufficient. Obviously, the process in not archival at least on some (RC) papers.

First question Evan. Do you have a thermometer and refrigerator? If so, you it.

It seems to me that macrophotography is not the subject of this discussion.

I have both 35mm and 6x6 aprons but will not do away with them. Sorry Waite.

OK Wim, just forget about it.

Sorry Wim, I tried to view your article both with netscape and Explorer 4.5 browsers and the text floats with pictures, like Wieslaw had said.

Wieslaw, this is an amazing result. 32 times overexposed negative full of details! The control you are demonstrating is enormous. What kind of developing procedures have you used?

Hey guys,

 

The pages in question contain SIMPLE layout of text and pictures, which should have been easy to program with the simplest version of basic HTML. Who cares about cascade sheets, MSsomething, Xsomething, plug ins and other non-standard, propriatary UPGRADES (so that the pockets of the programmers are kept always full of gold)? I don�t. Remember, there is MORE info on the internet that anybody can read without a problem.

Moderates sharply opposing views, without resorting to gun battles.

Isn't it what Wieslaw posted above?

There are problems with HTML programming. At least on my screen, viewed with Netscape 4.7, portion of text is superimposed on the pictures.

Mark: When you use a developer that produces very fine grain, it is because developer causes some dissolving and/or re-plating of the grains.

 

Where does this come from?

I have both Rodenstock 210/4.5 in Compound and C.Zeiss Jena Tessar 250/4.5, barrel lens without a shutter. Of course there is substantial difference in viewing distant objects, and in depth of field.

 

All the technical data you will get when you call Schneider, 49/0671/601 0.

 

You can get Tessars in the Eastern Europe for 30-50$ a piece. They are oustanding, the sharpest lens among 6 lenses I have, all top quality older, and even the recent apos.

I have Super Angulon 65/5.6 and Grandagon 58/5.6 and a normal 67mm filter does not obscure the view. I expect that the lens barrel is designed to accept thickness of a normal filter.

I disagree entirely with Frank -�there is absolutely nothing that anyone else can do

for you.� Yes, others can do much for you. There have been fine art schools which helped to produce outstanding artists, also photographers.

 

In contrast to technique, art in photography is a most elusive concept, intangible and subjective. It involves the application of taste, discrimination, and sensitivity in conjunction with technicalities such as camera position, angle of view, subject distance and image scale, contrast range, color arrangement, etc. The whole concept of art is very intuitive and subjective one, but instead of art in photography one can talk about composition. That directly leads to one point every photographer agrees with: A well composed photograph is more effective than badly composed one. Composition is usually the most effective and often the only way in which a photographer can express his individuality. Look for example at two forms of graphic rendition which derive their justification solely from composition. These are still lifes and abstractions. Two art forms specifically created to evoked the aesthetic pleasure that can be derived from good composition. I suggest, keep studying good abstract and semi-abstract paintings.

Your procedure is too confusing. One month delay in processing a b@w film has no effect on the results.

�Yes, the centre post is a crucial component in the Paterson tank's light trap.�

�Yup, the center post is indeed part of the lightfast�.

 

NO WAY! you guys are both wrong. Please inspect your Paterson tanks carefully.

 

Chris is right. It never occurred to me that someone may use the tank without the central column (black) and use just the reels.