chris_chen

I have several vintage chrome lenses that I am not satisfied with cosmetically. Although, they produce good results, I keep a lingering thought that they might be better is the slight fogging were gone.

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Once a CLA is done, does the fogging return after some time, or do the various tech's replace all of the lubricant culprits(?). Are there any other causes for the surface fogging of the older lenses?

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And no, I do not believe in glass/MgFl coating deterioration/degradation, being chemically inert.

For a different vantage point, I did take some from "flat on my

back". I would've taken a couple standing on my head, but I can't

stand on my head.

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I took a coulpe of people taking shots of people in front of the Arch

shots; one guy was also on his back in order to get a photo of his

kids and a vertical of the Arch; always liked this type of street

photo.

Please don't be disheartened by me and my lack of adventure. One of

many: On my way to Angkor I didn't fly like most people, I took a

river boat up the Mekong River/Tonle Sap Lake; even the guide books

warned not to do so.

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There are always infinitely more things/events going on in the world

to be disheartened about, need I list a few must remembers.

I just finished reading P. Greenspun's account of touring Isreal; not

only does he reference tour books with photo's... "There is a

photograph of nearly every site so you can decide whether or not it

is worth the trip photographically." And within the tour of

Jerusalem even suggests various vantage points: "The photographic

highlights of a trip to Jerusalem must include:"

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It was the same idea I had wrt the "Gateway Arch" and "Special

Places".

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Is this Sad?

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I figure if a person like Phil, Andy, Jay, Mike wrote a post like I

you all would've accepted it. So the real problem are with the

people who chose to criticize rather than answer the question posed,

not me on my high horse: Any Ideas?

Droogies, Baca Baca.

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Problem Bolshoi.

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Spaciba, Christian

Droogies, Baca Baca.

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Problem Bolshoi, Baca.

I like this forum and like to post here because:

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1. I like most of the responses.

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2. Most are tech/design in nature; sort of why, always wanted to

know...? Even though many posted answers seem contradictory and

sometimes wrong (see body shell material. Andy P. had to ask a Leica

rep. for the answer. Previous posts were wrong). I'm a techie.

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3. I don't like rereading older threads. They seem to die out so

quickly.

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4. I like to try to "contribute".

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5. This is the best I've found.

I read somewhere that Micro Tools makes vulcanite "...as close to the

orig. Leica as we've found." It comes in sheets, though; too many

variations in pre-cut, I guess.

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Please, someone make it clickable.

William,

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I sold my 50 'lux and never really missed it. If I'm going low light

they're usually indoors ambient and I like my 35, although only a

1:2.0 (I'll use 400ASA), in order to take people at the table or for

atmospheric shots.

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Hide the 50 somewhere and but the TE. If you don't like it, sell the

TE and dig out the 'lux; unless she's recorded the serial no. 8*)

Mike,

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I have more equipment than I can possibly jusify; a car I didn't have

and needed because my company is not providing one on this

assignment. Price a rental recently? I'm given a per diem to cover

my costs, and buying was/is the most pragmatic course, not a 35-70

zoom for an R which I don't have.

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I'll end up donating it to charity at the end of the job anyway, as I

did the last time I was working stateside and had a $5000 car (was

worth $7300 to the charity).

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John, I've seen new 35, 1:1.4 for $1199 "buy it now" on ebay, and

Jack F. was recently willing to sell a used 75 for $1350. Although,

you got new passport guarantees. Not to belittle you, but to inform

others.

John,

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How on Earth did you manage to bend it in the first place? Do you

remember tweaking it in the past? Maybe, just maybe, it's not made

flat (?), although flat would make more sense. If it's supposed to

be flat it should be a relatively easy DIY to reflatten it.

Actually, we all are born with one A. Over time some lose theirs to

disease, so unfortunately, these people have none. Equally

unfortunate, an equivalent or more people sprout another one -

located above the neck 8*)

This forum is: "Leica Photography", of Leica AND photography - of

objects living or otherwise photogenic to oneself - presumably of

photographing these using Leicas, but as is obvious within this

forum, the use and comments of Leica compatable equipment as well

(Contax, Voit., Konica, Kiev, etc), is and has been acceptable.

Paramount being photography.

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And, this being a free forum, constructive answers are always

welcome; as for the offensive or irrevalent, let's let the moderator

determine that, as we are mere visitors.

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In the end, if it offends you, ignore it and wait for the "gems" that

WILL appear on sublects that are important to YOU that you didn't

know before, or go someplace else.

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Please continue to point out specific (not generalities) comments

that are offensive/irrevalent to you such that I may rephrase my

question/comment in the present and in the future.

Will do Charles, Thanks,

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Given the attitudes "out there", are you surprised wrt e-mail?

Well,

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Let me think:

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M3, M4 Black Enamel, CL, 40 Leitz 'cron, 50 "lux, 28 Ver. III, 35/3.5

all gone one way or another (sold or stolen)

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Currently with me/without me (emphasis not on me) M2/M3/M4/M6/CLE, 21

SA, two 35 Ver 1 'cron Wetzler, 40 Minolta for CLE, 50/1.5 'rit, 50

4th gen. black 'cron, 50 DR, 65 Elmar, 90 TE, 90 chrome Elmarit, 90

LTM 'cron, 90 LTM chrome Elmar, 135 black TE, 135 chrome Elmarit,

200/4.0 Telyt, Viso II. Glad to be back in the states. It's the

worst system, but better than has ever been devised.

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Only Leica listed; don't get me started.

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Nuff Said, 8*)

Marc, Thanks for the Idea,

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I did try the B&W C41 process film, but the local lab (I don't

remember the country) did not give satisfactory results; the prints

appeared all soft focused when the color they were able to deal with

better. I always hope that they get the film processind right.

Then, someday, I'll be able to print them on my own.

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It's quite a pity travelling so much; I'd love total control over the

final product developing my own B&W and color. But, it's just I love

what I do - getting paid to travel "into the world" w/all expenses

paid and "living in the local economy", working with the local

people, not judging, just asking questions and absorbing a different

culture.

Pardon Me Respectfully Please Andy,

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Is $5000 a good price, when other makes cost much less, body included?

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Is this a particalarly challenging lens to design given the maximum

aperature?

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Is the quality of the Leica significantly superior?

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Please don't go into relative production numbers.

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I'm trying not to be provocative, contrary to recent posts, but

that's what I just spent for my temporary used car for my temporary

home.

Thanks Phil,

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It IS confirmed that I'm a complete IDIOT/LUDDITE, always waiting for

the next technology that does the thinking for me, 8*). But, I

wanted to post to Hassy specifically, so as not to be

instantaneously "dead". Thanks again - definately not a synical

comment.

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To those here that can contribute, please do so, or let Tony delete

as necessary.

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Happy Easter to you and yours, and to ALL.

Thanks for the suggestions,

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BW is not in the cards because I cannot self-process, read homeless.

I used to when there was a down-the-street photo school/workshop

club/rentable darkroom at 213-1/2 S. Main St. from our restaurant at

311 S. Main in Ann Arbor; probably already gone before you invaded

my 'hood. I'd love to, though.

Travis,

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I like it; of course it's only my opinion.

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Is this in Mexico in honor of Ivan? Which, BTW, is named for the

Olmec (sp?) peoples.

Thanks for your support James, I almost ran out of

tissues "boohooing". 8*)

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Still waiting for productive suggestions.

As you already have some older lenses, I think you know.

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Yes, the lenses have a "feel" that cannot be had outside Hassy, which

I have, and Rollie, which I don't. I can't comment on others out

there.

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While the newer/new Al constructed ones may be considered "best in

class" mechanically, the older brass ones may be equaled, but cannot

be beat. And, its got nothing to do with heft or density of the

chrome lenses.

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MY OPINION ONLY, as always. No need to shout, but for recent

experience.

Sorry Gang, a Small Flame Please,

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What's **** got to do with Leica, as well. As I remember, he/she

abandoned Leica recently.

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So Sorry Folks, but I thought the comments hostile, not knowing

anything about me and my experience.

Another point,

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It's definately NOT a travel log; one would need a great deal of time

to go through MY travelog. It's just the hightlights.

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Never a flame from me.

Anon,

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This really surprises me considering my previous posts.

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I DON'T have a "permanent" back yard, and I did go cycling around my

current back yard to find photogenic opportunities. It was nice, but

I didn't finish a roll, so it didn't make the list.

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I could've shot much more, but I try for ALL "keepers".

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I'm flabergasted.