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what about all of the images you miss during your "journey"

if we were still working with the quality of the old tri x or plus x I don't think I would be shooting film anymore...god knows we wouldn't want kodak to actually improve their line of films.

another vote for Chromatics!!

" Instead, they really are quite stupid, just letting light in through one end and

light out the other... "

 

 

 

doesn't this also describe Martin's head??

if I could define it with words, I would be a poet instead of a photographer.

I have read that he burned all but about 15 or so, as to which ones

survived and where they are, who knows? I would check out cole westons

website and email him with any questions, it would be interesting to

know.

if you do continue to freeze/refregerate your film, go to an army

surplus store and pick up an ammo can (make sure it has a good rubber

seal), put the open film box in that so you can pull the can out of

the freezer and let it get to room temp before opening, takes care of

the condensation problem.

isn't adding grain in photoshop like adding scratchy sounds to a music

cd? :)

ever heard of this anyone? saw this mentioned at the santa fe workshop site that is offering a 20x24 polaroid camera course.

 

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http://www.sfworkshop.com/photo/detail.cfm?wkshp_id=photo53

I like trays because:

i use a lot less chemistry

I can do n- and/or n+ processing along with normal.

I know immediatly if something bad is going on with sheets (sticking

together, etc.)

hell, I'm used to it

 

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I always dev. emulsion up and don't have any problems.

hey! you told him to go out and shoot with it, I guess you agreed with

me after all......

why don't you just meter with it on and then with it off??? I don't

understand why you need us to answer this question for you?

put a yellow or yellow-green filter on the lens and use any damn film

you want....

ah yes the two of you being the first to attack, claiming my being a

racist and now you are both above it all, how hypocritical.....yawn.

no, you attacked me earlier in other posts,whats the difference?

 

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you continue to infer that in some way I am racist, nonsense, I simply

point out stupidity when I see it.

 

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what do the great accomplisments of these people have to do with me or

the conversation? oh yes, its because you choose believe I am racist

and that in some way I am the problem here, just claiming me to be

racist certainly takes away any responsibility on your part doesn't

it?---I'm right and he is wrong, because he is racist!

 

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Jim please cut the drama, I know all this uplifting talk makes you

feel superior, but you nor anyone else on this forum is the

spokesperson for your race,I'm sure many agree with your view, but

there are many blacks who strongly disagree with you, but I guess you

would call them sellouts---how sad.

its amazing how blind you are....

 

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Depend on the afro american community......

 

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depend on afro americans for inspiration...

 

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your a blind fool, and thats been established also..

good thing Malcom x was moving away from such racist statements

towards the end of his life.

sounds like it might be the enlarger head slowly creeping down. try

pulling on the enlarger head after locking it down to see if its

tight.

Sandy, I never said that I didn't care anything about the person who

made the photograph. I simply said that the color of their skin makes

no difference whatsoever.

 

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color doesn't indicate life experiences. It seems to me that your

opinion is based on very stereotypical views.

 

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"affirmative action of the arts" what a horrible concept.

 

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Of course I'm sure that your responses would have been identical if

the original question stated that he was looking only for "white male"

photographers only! :)

Jorge,

 

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1.The meter compensates for both absorption and variations in color

2.no your way isn't as good because it doesn't compensate for color

variations.

3.How is it that I don't grasp the concept of filtration?

4. the proof is in the pudding as they say, lets see your work.

Here here, Fred! I agree. If you create great work, I want to see it,

if its crap I don't--what difference should it make as to what color/

sex the artist is?

Steve, if I said,"close enough" about something related to engineering

would you have a problem with that? This isn't a hobby for me, and I

don't put "fudge factors" on the wall. this is a big part of how I

make my living, so yes, it does matter.

 

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Jorge, if "close enough" is good for you, then thats fine, just admit

it. To say that I don't understand sensitometry or color theory is

laughable, especially if you knew my background and education. What

you say is correct about absorption, except for the fact that you fail

to compensate for variations in the amount of color transmitted by the

scene. I don't know how to say it any more plain than that. If that

additional variance isn't big enough for you to be concerned then

thats fine, but don't claim to know what my education in these matters

based on this conversation. I also never claimed to not have ever had

under/overexposure problems before, I said that I haven't had over/

under problems due to filter usage when using the spot meter.

 

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Brian, yes it is true that metering with filters in front of the meter

is unreliable, unless you have a meter calibrated for that purpose. I

use the pentax spot meter calibrated by Zone 6, its extremly accurate

for this type of situation.

Jorge, I never said I use factors, nor will I use your method, both of

which I find simplistic and inaccurate. I use a zone 6 corrected spot

meter which takes care of these problems.

 

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I and others have shown in film tests that different amounts of a

color affects the factor that will correct an exposure. Can you

honestly say that in the same scene if you have a dark yellow and a

light yellow subject that they will transmit the same amount of light?

This is why filters work in the first place!

 

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I know why we use factors, but this doesn't totally account for this

change of values.

 

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Of the 15 years or so that I have been shooting bw I have had the

adjusted meter for many years and haven't come across any under/

overexposure problems due to this method.

 

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I understood you completly, I just disagree with you, I thought this

was evident.

Jorge, are you saying you carry a grey card around with you and check

it every time? or test once with grey card and then use that

correction every time. frankly neither is very accurate since the

color that you filter for will be different at every shooting session

and will be different where you are as opposed to where your subject

may be. why not just get an adjusted meter (zone 6) which makes a

world of difference and not have to ever worry about it?

The image that makes the viewer say,"I want to go there", is a

failure. The image that takes the viewer there and beyond to what the

photographer saw and felt, is a success.