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<i>- I have no sympathy for fussy photographers (pro or amatuer) who
complain their prints from negs aren't
the right color. If you can't communicate your color
preferences to a lab, then you should try a different lab,
or maybe a different hobby. </i><p>
Yikes! You know, I've never seen a sign in a lab that said 'Sloppy
work done here' but sometimes that is what I have gotten. If any labs
aren't serious about offering quality custom printing services, they
should get into some other business.<p>
I know a number of fine art photographers who use color negs for their
work. They have teaching jobs at colleges and universities and thus
have full access to color darkrooms. That's how you get really good
color prints: make them yourself.<p>
Another option I am currently investigating with the lab here in town
that I trust are lightjet prints from a digital file. I am told that
I send in the file on a Jaz or Zip, looking just the way I like it,
and they send me back print. I hope to have my first print back
before the month is done; I will let you know what I think.
Expensive, but for us fussy photographers without our own color
darkrooms it may be an option.
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With just the info given here, I would say that your problem
originates in the use of transparency film for the image
original. One of the blessings/curses of transparency film like
RSX 100 is that it is color balanced for 5500 K. If you go
above or below that to any great degree without correcting with
filtration, you get a color temp shift you can see. 5500 K is
just an average number for daylight --- it is the color of
daylight around 2:00 pm on a cloudless summer day. The problem
is, as you have discovered with your picture, that it is
possible to have light of several color temperatures in the same
picture. Take an overcast day with patches of sunlight peeking
through the clouds early morning or late afternoon (my
favorite). The rays of sunlight are going to be pretty warm ---
less than 5000K probably. The rest of the light, filtered by
bouncing around in the clouds overhead, is goint to be pretty
cool --- much more than 5000k. The diffuse light through the
clouds is what is going to be filling your shadows (equals cool
or blue) while the direct sunlight is going to overpower the
weak diffuse cool light in other areas. Sound familiar? I have
not seen your picture but I think I have been there before. So,
with your interneg, if you correct for excess cool, your picture
may grow too warm. If you correct for excess warm, your picture
may grow too cool.<p>
I think first you should decide if maybe you got a print that
slipped through quality control. Go back to your lab and
explain the problem to them; unless they are complete crooks
they should at least take the time to explain to you and examine
your print. They should have a set of color analysis filters --
- these are clear pale magenta, yellow, etc., filters in
cardboard frames. If the color print looks off, you can hold
these filters in front of your eye in good light and examine
your print. Keep looking through the filters till you find one
that makes the color look a little more correct. I'm not
promising you that you will be able to do this the first time
you try; it takes practice and a trained eye. Its hard to do,
harder to explain -- ask the lab people to help you. Maybe when
they help you they will see for themselves what, if anything,
can be done for your print. This should at least help you to
determine if they can correct your color print by adjusting the
filtration of the enlarger. Those Kodak "How to take pictures"
encyclopaedias at the library that are otherwise so full of bad
advice explain this process pretty well.<p>
It is possible that with a simple adjustment they can make a
better print for you. It is also possible that you will have to
live with a compromise due to the color temp conflict -- either
1)correct warms and too cool cools or 2)correct cools and too
cool warms or 3)warms a little cooler than they are in your
print and cools a little warmer.<p>
What can you do to avoid this in the future? One way is to use
color neg film --- it's getting better all the time. Try the
Agfa Optima; I like it. If prints to hang on the wall are your
ultimate goal, I think color neg is the right way to get there
right now. In the future, with new technologies, that may
change. When I was doing color darkroom work in school years
ago I discovered that it was POSSIBLE to dodge and burn while
changing filtration in the enlarge but that can possible mean
spending 8 hours or more trying and trying to get a result that
looks convincing and possibly never getting there. I think a
good way to do it is to scan your neg, do the color correction
in Photoshop and have it printed digitally using a lightjet
printer. I'm tring to learn how to do all that right now --- I
am lucky enough to have access to this high tech gear through my
work.<p>
good luck.
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Dear Craig;<p>
I have the Sekonic L-398 Studio Deluxe II meter with the disc
attatchments you describe and a single slide marked "high." I do
not have multiple slides and do not know what you mean by ISO
setting slides --- on my meter, ISO is set on the dial. I hope
what I can tell you about it relates to your model.<p>
This meter is complicated; I would have never been able to figure
it out without someone telling me. Ordinarily, under daylight
conditions the Sekonic is used with the "high" slide inserted in
the slot at the top under the ping pong ball like diffuser. Set
the ISO with the dial in the center, press the button and
release. The needle will move to a number on the scale from 0 to
1.25K (I guess this scale is footcandles). Turn the dial until
the number indicated by the needle lines up with the black
pointer. The bottom side of the dial will give you all shutter
speed/Fstop combinations. If you wish to add or subtract from
your exposure and don't feel like doing the math in your head,
move the reading from the pointer to the black +1, +2 or -1, -2.
If you use the EV system on your camera, there is also a space
indicating the proper EV number on the dial.<p>
In subdued light (like evening or early morning), remove the
slide and line up the number you get from the needle reading with
the red 'H' arrow. There is a place in the back to keep the
slide so you don't lose it. I have found that in really dim
light the meter did not register but with bright moonlight or
under a streetlamp meaningful measurements could be achieved. If
you use the meter with slide removed in bright light, the needle
will jump off the scale. If you use the meter in dim light with
the slide in, the needle won't move. If you remove the slide and
use the black pointer or insert the slide and use the red
pointer, your reading will be way off.<p>
The bottom outer ring of the dial is F stops-numbered in white
from f128 to 0.7<p>
The lower inner ring is shutter speed -- from 60 seconds (in red)
to 8k (or 1/8000th) in white. The ring inside of that of red
numbers marked cine is for movie cameras. The cine numbers
indicate frames per second.<p>
The dome like diffuser is what I use almost always. It will
catch the light coming from all directions. I usually use it by
pointing it back towards the lens of my camera or by holding it
so the light hitting the dome is the same as the light striking
the subject for a good all round exposure reading. I can then
take measurements from the bright light, from the shadows, etc.,
and make more educated guesses as to what my exposure will be.
The flat disc diffuser is for measuring an isolated light source
(if you want to compare a key to a fill for example). The black
disc with holes punched in it converts the meter to a reflected
light meter. <p>
Here is how I might compare the Sekonic to your TTL camera meter.
Place a gray card in the sun. Use the black diffuser with the
holes punched in it to measure the light reflected from the gray
card. Then compare with the TTL meter in your SLR. They ought
to be the same.<p>
I am sorry if this seems complicated, but hopefully it will be
clearer if you read this over with the meter in front of you. I
got my Sekonic years ago, but since I started using flash gear I
have needed a modern digital flash meter. I have found the
Sekonic to be as reliable as the digital meter for incident
readings and it never needs batteries.
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Whoah! Something happened to the answer I intended to post.<p>
I intended to say that not all polaroid backs fit all Hasselblad
SWCs. My cheapie $200.00 NPC polaroid back does not fit it
because the tripod socket of the SWC gets in the way. Basically,
you need one of the Polaroid backs where the film gate is in the
center of the back, not closer to the top or the bottom side. I
have rented the SWC with the expensive Polaroid back by
Hasselblad --- Polaroid back 100, I think --- and that fit. I
have been told that no Polaroid will fit the earliest versions of
the SWC --- I have only used the later versions as rentals.<p>
Get the ground glass! I found the ground glass invaluble for
getting truly distortion free pictures with the SWC. The ground
glass has little clips to affix your waist level finder on it --
easy to use.<p>
Visit <a href="http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan/places.html"><u>
http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan/places.html</a></u> for a look at
some of my pictures. The fourth picture on the page was taken
with the SWC. I think it looks like a picture that would require
movements.
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Take a look at <a href="http://db.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-
msg.tcl?msg_id=000CPz"><u>http://db.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-
fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000CPz</u></a>. There is a bit of
commentary on the Hasse SWC camera there.<p>
I have been told that very early versions of this camera will not
accept the Polaroid back. The only SWCs I ahve used are alter,
rentals. The SWC does not accept my cheapie $200.00 NPC Polaroid
back --- it requires the more expensive Hasselblad Polaroid back
(I can't remember which model --- Polaroid 100? Where I rent the
SWC rents it as a kit. I just wanted you to know so you could
try before you buy.<p>
I have some of my pictures at <a href="http://www.icon-stl.net/
~stefan/places.html><u>http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan/
places.html</u></a>. The fourth picture on the page was taken
with the Hasselblad SWC. This tall office building was 600-800
feet away. I was standing on a small embankment that elevated me
slightly. I think the SWCs performance can rival a camera with
movements in certain situations. I would love to use one as a
street photography camera.
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By coincidence (funny how it works) I came across a page with
some info on the very subject of mounting 35mm Nikon lenses to
the Bronica S2. Go to <a href="http://www.cameraquest.com/
nrfbron.htm"><u>http://www.cameraquest.com/nrfbron.htm</a></u>.<
p>
When I originally read your posting, I assumed you were talking
about Nikon SLR lenses. The author of this page has info about
an adapter for old Nikon RF lenses. The adapter shown is
designed to do this and so will probably work, but it doesn't
seem to be cheap --- it and the lenses it will work with are
rare collectibles according to this page. I would also point
out that these RF lenses do not have automatic diaphragms ---
you would have to open up to full aperture to focus, stop down
and take your picture.<p>
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If you have not already done so, visit <a href="http://
www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/bronica.html/"><u>http://www.smu.edu/
~rmonagha/bronica.html/</u></a>. Its a huge site with all kinds
of info, including DIY lens hacking for the Bronica.<p>
Bronica lenses for the S2 are not that expensive used (at least
not expensive compared to other MF systems). Perhaps it would
be much easier to find what you want in original S2 equipment.
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I have used the Kenko X2 for Hasselblad with good results. I
have not done lens tests, side by side comparisons, etc., but an
under the impression that it delivers better results than
enlarging a smaller portion of your negaive would give you.<p>
The focussing screen is dark with the 2x converter mounted on my
f2.8 lens, though. With an f4 or f5.6 lens it might be much too
dark for accurate focus.<p>
I have been told that most of the off brand 2x converters for MF
cameras were made by the same manufacturer so there should be
little (if any) difference. So a Kenko = Rokunar = Vivitar. I
don't know if this last bit of info is accurate.
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I think there is probably nothing wrong with your Hasselblad.
The problem is probably with your test ---- the 28 on 35mm and
the 80mm on 6x6 are giving you such different fields of
reference.<p>
Do a new test. Put a 50mm on your 35mm and an 80mm on your 6x6.
Take a picture where an object of a certain size, say, a window
in your wall that is 30 feet distant, occupies half the frame.
In a darkroom, make 11x14s where the window frame is the same
size in each print. The print from the Hasselblad will blow the
35mm away. If you do the test with slide film, project the
slides so they are the same size on the screen. Again, the
Hasse will produce the more detailed image hands down.<p>
The big jump in image quality with MF comes with the fact that
in order to get an enlargement, a great deal less enlarging is
necessary.
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I wouldn't worry too much about exactly what size MF camera to
buy at this point (6x6 or 6x7 or whatever). I would start by
trying to figure out if you really do want to jump to a larger
format. If you do, you will notice a BIG jump in your lab and/or
printing costs.<p>
If you do your own printing, do you have access to an enlarger
that can handle medium format? Some enlargers cannot go beyond
35mm. I started off with a durst enlarger that could supposedly
handle 35mm and 6x6 but there was such a bad vignetting problem
with the 6x6 in this enlarger that it did not allow me to make a
print from the whole 6x6 negative. If your enlarger can handle
MF, you will probably have to buy a 75mm or 80mm enlarger lens, a
new neg carrier, larger trays, more chemistry, etc., etc., etc.<
p>
If you have a minilab do your printing at bargain prices, realize
that they may not do so for 120 or 220 film. If you are on a
budget, you may have to budget for more than just a new camera --
to have the same numbe of prints made will probably increase
quite a bit as you jump from 35mm to 120mm. In order to see the
jump in image quality that a larger neg size will give you, you
will want something bigger and better than 5x7 machine prints.
Custom printing at a lab is expensive, but if you really want to
get into using your MF gear at its full potential, it will be a
road you will have to travel down.<p>
I started using MF cameras a few years ago when I was in school.
We had a lab at school with enlargers and neg carriers and all
that jazz for 35mm through 4x5. Out on my own, however, I find
the cost of custom color lab prints from my 6x6 pretty damn
expensive. I started off in art school with 35mm, moved to a
Yashica TLR that I bought for less than $100.00. After I had
used the Yashica for a while I realized I really liked the things
that the increased negative size gave me. Unless I really think
I need to be able to enlarge the negative a great deal, though,
these days I use my 35mm just because film and processing costs
are prohibitive.<p>
I don't want to discourage you; I want you to know that you may
be getting into more than just a new camera.
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Jim Greenland;
We can't avoid the fact that the images we create exist in the
real world and exist in reference to other images. Even if I
choose photography over painting for whatever reasons (easier,
less messy, oil paints are toxic, allergic to animal hair
bristles --- whatever) the image is going to look different
switching from painting to photo and that difference is
significant. In the world of images, looking different is
meaning different. Compare a photographic study of a nude to a
painting by Lucien Freud or Titian (original painting, not a
photograph in a book). Both describe the human form and the
Freud or Titian, I think, compete with photography in terms of
realism since they give us clues that describe the mass of the
figure, the layers of pigment irridesce to describe the slight
transluscence of flesh. Photography captures and carefully
delineates details even the most astute observer would fail to
notice like tiny moles on the skin. But the photography is
thought to be more of 'the real' than the painting (even though
it often presents a view we would NEVER see with our eyes) since
it came from a machine rather than a brush I guess. In a world
where a huge number of representation technologies exist
(everything from sand painting to holography) the differences in
the representation technology as chosen by the artist become
ultimately very significant. That brings me back to my initial
reason for starting is thread.<p>
I think as photographers, in the choices we make and in the work
we do, we explore the capabilities of a given medium. Fashions
like pointilism come and go, I guess. But pointilism did not
start out as a fashion, it started out as an idea about the
nature of vision and perception. Believe it or not, the initial
pointilists were very interested in the science of vision and
qualities of light (we see reflected light, not matter itself)
and pointilism itself was initially an attempt to express these
ideas in painting form. After the initial practitioners came
the imitators who made paintings using only dots; there is a
world of difference between a Seurat (sp?) and an imitation.<p>
I believe that as photographers, by our actions and work, we
explore the possibilities of our medium. True exploration
discovers the potential meaning and capabilities of a medium.
Digital imaging is an interesting case, for, as Scott has said
above, it is most successful when it looks like something else
(film). But it is not film -- it is only like film. I think as
this technology continues to develop we will discover more about
the nature of digital imaging -- its advantages and
disadvantages. A lot of the beauty of photography can come from
it's technical shortfallings (as an imitation of human vision it
fails on several counts). What happens when we can sidestep a
lot of those shortfallings through seamless retouching? Do we
end up with technically perfect but boring pictures?
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A footnote to the above posting.<p>
The fingerprint I could not see in the viewfinder so I elected
not to worry about it. But there were little crumbs of black
stuff (bits of decayed foam rubber or something similar) that
were gluey and made annoying black spots. I took an old, dead,
electronic SLR (unrepairable) and tried cleaning the mirror with
a brush made from loosely wrapping a piece of lens tissue aroung
the end of a cotton swab. This brush I made slightly damp with
bestine.<p>
It worked. The bestine left a cloudy residue on the surface of
the mirror of the dead 35mm camera that evaporated in seconds. I
tried it on a corner of the mirror of the hasselblad with no ill
effect. I did the rest of the Hasse mirror and all the black
stuff and the fingerprints came off.<p>
The black stuff was in the camera when I bought it. I think
there are some foam gaskets inside that are decaying; at some
time in the future I would like to replace those.<p>
If the black stuff returns I will try this cleaning methosd again
but I don't reccommend you go slopping bestine on your camera
mirror. I plan to do this sort of cleaning only when I
absolutely must (like every 5 years or so). I offer no
guarantees; try it at your own risk, although I would warn you
that bestine may haze or dissolve certain plastic parts (I think
the fresnel viewscreen (or ground glass) in most 35mm cameras is
plastic). Try it on a camera you don't value, try it on the
corner of the mirror --- if you cannot accept the fact that there
is some risk involved here then don't do it.<p>
The mirror of an SLR is silvered on the top surface, not the
bottom like your bathroom mirror. This makes the least abrasive,
brushing action harmful. Do not scrub. A repairman I met said
he cleans camera mirrors with a lens tissue wad held in tweezers
and is very careful not to let the tweezers touch the surface of
the lens. He didn't know if solvent would work but suggested it
might.<p>
stefan
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I am convinced from the little I know about art history that
photography had a profound effect on painting. These forms of
representation do not exist in a vacuum. Manet, Degas, other
painters of the 19th century are known to have been enthusiastic
photographers as well. Many of the expressionists used
photographic form in their paintings --- Degas with compositions
that had been suggested to him by photographic cropping,
Bonnard, Manet, the list goes on. Photography was invented
almost simultaneously in several places, two of the inventors
were artists or aspired to artistry. Daguerre was a painter
known for his realistic effects and dioramas; Fox Talbot was a
frustrated artist with a skill for science. Photography was
invented using a tool of the painter (the camera obscura) that
had existed since the 15th century or so. The interrelatedness
of painting, drawing and photography is well documented.<p>
It is obvious that tool choice shapes our message. In this
forum there are reams written over whether one should use a TLR
or an SLR, Fuji Velvia or EPP, etc. Isn't a switch from analog
to digital recording of images, with all the advantages Scott
has mentioned in previous postings, a highly significant one?
It is more significant to me than the choice between a
rangefinder or an SLR for example.<p>
The jump from drawing or painting to photography is a big one,
but, in our culture with its strong emphasis on media
communication (as oppossed to say, oral communication amongst
the hunter gatherers of the world) we can establish a category
in which both these things fit----perhaps we can call it "two
dimensional representation." In this category we can find sub
categories --- drawing, painting, photography, etc. All of
these sub categories have different characteristics which are
significant. It is interesting to me that both drawing and
photography share so many characteristics and yet are not really
at all alike (I practice both). When we make the switch from
analog to digital photography, we find that the two media share
a lot of qualities but are really very different. I'm glad you
brought up the photo collages of Uelsmann, Scott. Like you, I
initially found them interesting (because I didn't know how he
did them). After I did a bit of darkroom work, I began to see
how it could be done (although I never went there myself) and
the bloom was off of them for me. I would support the
implication of your above statement in saying that a large part
of the appeal of photography is the appeal of the real.<p>
This appeal of the real leads me back to my questions concerning
digital photography. It looks like analog --- but its not.
What you see may and may not have been manipulated. Perhaps it
is the possibility of manipulation that makeds me say that it is
different from analog. Is this difference significant? I am
currently not certain. But if we look back into the history of
photography I think I can establish a case for the assertion
that photography did not start to be taken seriously or start to
take itself seriously until it established an identity that was
distinct from other forms of two dimensional representation.
Rather than being 'painting plus a little science' which is what
daguerre and his contemporaries thought of it, it had to become
photography as a distinct form of representation.<p>
The pure and seamless mutability of digital imaging causes me
tro be certain that although it is like photography, it
certainly is not photography in the classic sense.<p>
P.S: Scott --- the last I heard of Jerry Uelseman (sp?) he was
doing the animation sequence for the opening credits of the less
than prime time TV show OUTER LIMITS. I don't know whether his
prescence there is sad or genius.
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Part of my message failed to post; I am re posting that
part.<p>You can see some of my digital imaging expiraments at
<a href="http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan/other.html"> <u>my
web's other page.</u></a><p>
You can also access my digital images through <a href=
"http:www.icon-stl.net/~stefan"><u> my web page index at
http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan.</u></a><p>
I also intended to post that I found creating these digital
images to be an intrigueing and amusing activity, but I do
not consider them to be extraordinarily interesting or
successful. There seems to be little in them other than a
certain amount of novelty value, and this I find true of all
digital imaging.<p>
Perhaps I am being too hard on a medium that has really just
been created but I want to get the ball rolling of
discussions of the uses and abuses of the new technology. If
we as photographers can't figure out what to do with the new
technology, then who can?<p>
If anyone knows of good links to good example images,
please post them.
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There have been several interesting postings in regard to
digital photography (check out <a href="http://db.photo.net/
bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000HIZ"><u>Should I fear the
digital revolution?</u></a>). While I have seen a lot of
interesting digital equiptment and techniques, I haven't seen
much interesting digital photography. Basically, what I have
seen is either indistinguishable from conventional analog
photography, or it is a technically sophisticated form of
collage.<p>
You can see some of my own digital experiments at <a href=
"http://www.icon-stl.net/~stefan/other.html><u>my web site
"other" page</u></a>. While my own digital experimentation has
been fun to do and a learning experience, I would not consider
any oese images to be extremely interesting, meaningful or
sophisticated. They are more like little one line jokes or
illustrations.<p>
When photography was invented in imitation of painting and
drawing, it soon established itself as having its own aesthetic,
its own nature. When will digital have its own aesthetic, its
own nature, its own identity? Does it need it?
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Usually a tiny mark, nick or scratch will have no perceivable
effect on image quality. A coating of dust or marks all over the
surface of the glass, like you might get by cleaning your lens
with a shirt tail, apparently will (although I have not tested
this myself).<p>
I used to have the classic Nikon brand lens caps with the little
clutches on my 35mm SLR lenses but everytime I would go out on one
of my assignments with all of these lenses bouncing around in my
bag, these little caps would just pop off. Thus I got a tiny nick
in the front of one of my lenses. It is one of the lenses I use A
LOT (the 35mm f2) but have noticed no change in performance due to
the nick. Now I use the screw on metal caps --- they take longer
to remove but do not pop off by themselves.<p>
Probably this tiny mark will not affect your lenses performance.
Unfortunately, such marks drastically decrease the resale value.
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I think we are getting away from the original question; I don't
think it matters.<p>
Just after making my previous posting on this topic, I saw the
new Lightphase back from Phase One. It has to be the most
impressive digital camera I have seen yet. They have a web page
at <a href="http://www.phaseone.com">www.phaseone.com</a>. The new Lightphase capture back is an instant capture
system that fits on a Hasselblad (but only a Hasselblad or a
Sinar) and was shown at Photokina (not that I went). A lot of
the problems I had been complaining about in regard to the
Dicomed Instant capture system have been eliminated. At an
estimated price of $20,000 for the back and camera (Phase One is
in a limited partnership of some kind with Hasselblad), it is
less than about 1/3rd the price of the Dicomed but this price
does not include the computer you will need as well.<p>
Shortly after it's release, Lightphase will also be availible
with an adapter to make it a portable unit.<p>
At $20,000 though, I still think the Kowa 66 is a bargain.<p>
stefan
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I have an older Hasselblad 500c. When I bought it there was some dust
and dirt on the mirror. The dust came off easily with compressed air
but there is still a finger print on the lower edge of the mirror.<p>
Any suggestions for getting rid of the fingerprint without damaging
the mirror?<p>
stefan
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I use compressed air. Use gentle gusts; don't blast it. Don't
shake the can or hold it sideways or upside down; this will cause
freezing cold propellant to fly out the nozzle and may damage
your camera. I always squirt once in the air to test before
applying the compressed air to my camera.<p>
stefan
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Mal;<p>
I hope you enjoy your new camera.<p>
The V is for Vorlaufwerk --- self timer. The same switch is for
flash sync --- the bulb for flash bulbs and the lightning bolt
for strobe. To use the self time, pull the lever to V, press the
shutter button and it goes. Flash will fire if plugged in when
useing V.<p>
I have never used a Rollie with a meter so I will not address
those questions.<p>
Rollies I have used set the asa by pressing the center of the asa
indicator and turning it or by turning it with a thumb nail. If
yours has a meter, it is probab;y cross coupled to the meter and
so maybe my advice on that does not apply.<p>
A lot of the old Rollies have cross coupled EVS exposure systems
which can be pretty frustrating to use if you don't know how to
disengage them. I prefer EVS coupling off on my cameras. On the
front of the camera, on either side of the two lenses are a pair
of tiny dials. If the one on the left has a pointer and numbers
and the one on the right has a pair of what look like parentheses
(4 of them, one thin set one fat set) then you have a camera with
an EVS like I know about.<p>
To engage or disengage EVS, fiddle with the little parentheses in
the RH knob (the inner set is actually a tiny dial---set it by
pushing and turning). If they line up to look like a linked
chain, EVS is engaged and shutter and f stop are locked together.
If they are so the chain is broken, EVS is off and you can set F
stop and shutter speed independently.<p>
If you have never loaded one, a Rollie is hard to figure out.
Get your friend to show you --- once you know how it us really
easy. I can load a Rollie faster than I can load any other
camera other than a 35mm with a motor drive.<p>
Even if it is a very old one, if this Rollie is in proper shape
it will take excellent pictures. Have fun.<p>stefan
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I have worked a bit as a\photographer and an assistant with some
of the new, high end digital cameras in commercial studios. I
think digital continues to become a more viable option every
month --- but I think film is also here to stay for quite some
time.<p>
Those $5000.00 dollar digital cameras may be able to turn your
image around faster than film but your Kowa 66 will produce more
luscious color, more detail in the shadows and highlights and a
more breathtaking print. A $200.00 35mm SLR will produce a
better 11x14 than the new Kodak/Nikon or Canon/Kodak DSC or
whatever they are calling it now.<p>
To get to a place where your digital camera would rival the color
depth and detail and resolution of film, you have to spend a lot
of money. At the studio I contract my services to, I am informed
that one of the digital backs for one of the camera systems costs
$60,000.00. I double checked what I just typed and, if your
wondering, I did not stick any extra zeros in there by mistake.
That 60k buys you the back alone --- you still need a camera to
stick it on, lights and a computer with about 500 mb ram before
you can take your first picture. So were talking about cameras
that are really expensive, not at all portable ... I would point
out that the studio I contract to is known to be an all digital
studio but they also shoot film.<p>
My prediction is that digital photography will continue to take
over in the commercial sector where clients are less worried
about saving pennies on film and more worried about saving
hundreds of dollars on time and retouching. I believe that film
is still the perfect medium for a lot of applications and a lot
of commecial studios will shoot film when it is more appropriate
or convenient and scan. I believe that smaller studios will be
able to continue to use film, as will wedding and portrait
photographers and amateur photographers. I think for many years
hence film will continue to deliver the best image quality at the
most reasonable price. I think digital will also make itself
known in the snapshot and family pictures realm; probably places
like Olin Mills will go digital if they have not already. If
they can get the image quality and reliability of low end digital
cameras printers up and the price way down, then digital imaging
may replace the point and shoot for family pictures but who knows
-- stills from a digital video camera? The consumer market is
pretty fickle but I think people like photographs cause they can
stick them in their pocket to show people their photo of their
new baby or stick them in an envelope and mail them. I don't
think vacation snapshots on your computer monitor is ever going
to seriously challenge the market share of 35mm and APS, at least
not for most people.<p>
Many of the digital camera backs integrate into existing camera
systems. There are digital backs that fit Hasselblad, Mamiya,
etc., or fit 4x5 cameras. There are Canon and Nikon and Minolta
digital cameras that use the existing lenses and accessories.
Probably wont make one for the Kowa, though.<p>
Digital photography is certainly here to stay, and will take a
bite out of film sales, but I think you will be able to get film
for your 66 for a long time yet.<p>
just my prediction<p>
stefan
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Peter; I have used Selenium toner with Ilford MG FB papers with
good results. I tone prints after a very long washing and a bath
in hypo clear.<p>
Selenium seems to increase the contrast of prints slightly.
Because of this, when I arrive at my final exposure for a print I
intend to tone, I make a few, some slightly lighter than the
others. I have also found that a print that may look good to the
eye will look a little flat when displayed under glass so I don't
make final judgement on which version of the print I prefer to
frame until after I have laid a mat and sheet of glass over it
and looked at it that way(not that I frame a lot of prints).<p>
Selenium also gives my prints a slightly warmish color. I have
found that after toning and drying, many prints with delicate
tonal detail (like clouds in an overcast sky) are easier to see
due to the slight contrast increase.
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I have used older lenses of all kinds from 35mm to 4x5, some
single coated, some uncoated. I don't find that a lack of
coatings is a tremendous disadvantage; I find flare and lack of
image contrast to be more of a problem with these older lenses
than poor transmission of color (lack of contrast, I suppose,
could make a transparency look washed out and so, arguably, affect
color).<p>
Religious use of lens hoods makes a lot of difference. I've never
done a side-by-side comparison, but I bet an older single coated
lens with a hood would deliver images with equal or greater
contrast than a modern multicoated lens without a hood in most
outdoor lighting situations. Anyone tried this?<p>
I have used the Rollieflexes with Planar and Xenotar f 3.5 lenses.
I shot quite a bit of film with my Rollie E3 with planar lens of
1960s vintage; the images from the Rollie are every bit as sharp,
contrasty and color correct as from a Hasselblad of recent
vintage.<p>
In addition, the TLR design eliminates a lot of mechanical
vibration.<p>
I have never used a Rollie with lenses other than Planar or
Xenotar and so cannot speak with any authority about all such
cameras.<p>
stefan
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I have a suggestion which may seem a little unorthodox, but when
you consider that you want these images for a web site (showing
them at what? 72 or 150 dpi or so? Who needs a high res scan for
that?) it will work. I wanted to do the same thing, and had 35mm,
6x6, 4x5 and 8x10 chromes that I wanted to use on the site. At a
local lab, amateur grade scans of 35mm chromes were $1.25 each
after you bought the cd. 6x6 and 8x10 scanning charges started at
$15 or $20 -- out of my budget.
<p>I color corrected my lightbox using color correction gels ---
all it needed was a minusgreen filter (30m equivelent). I laid
the transparencies larger than 35mm out, one by one, on the
lightbox with black paper and matboard covering all of the surface
except my image area. I then had a backlit view of my 6x6, 4x5 or
8x10 transparency. I used my Hasselblad with polaroid back to
determine basic exposure. I then photographed each transparency,
bracketing widely, with ektachrome 35mm and extension tube. I
then had 35mm slides of my 6x6 and 4x5 and larger work. I sent my
slides in to be scanned --- since I was doing over 50 images it
cost a little less than $2.00 per image (not including my time --
only film, polaroid, filters, etc.).
<p>The scans were not great quality and would not stand any degree
of enlargement but served adequately for online use.
<p>These days a friend lets me use his scanner so I no longer use
this method.
<p>good luck
stefan
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Your description is vague and brief, but a lot of photographers
use the Hasselblad for that kind of work. You can rent it and try
it out.<p>
I wouldn't settle on specific focal legnth lenses until you try
them out. One of the good things about a camera like Hasselblad
is most towns have a pro shop that will rent other lenses to you
by the day so you can see how useful they will be to what you want
to photograph and you like to shoot it. I have assisted in
fashion shooting and done interior/architectural photography for
local publications. In both these situations a camera with
interchangeable backs and availible Polaroid backs is a GREAT
asset. In fashion, you can shoot film as fast as you can change
magazines. For the location/architectural work, you can tweak
your lighting and take polaroids until your shot is pefect and
then shoot film by simply switching to a film back. Polaroids are
not cheap; reshoots are worse, however.<p>
Before you invest, RENT. Remember; unless you already have a photo
business rolling and just want to upgrade your gear, you have to
figure out a way of earning the money to pay for all this stuff.
The cameras and all that are just the tip of the iceberg of
starting a photo business (I assume you are just starting a
photobusiness by the nature of your question). Hasselblad is
great (I use it myself) but REAL expensive. I often wonder if I
shouldn't have bought a Bronica S2A instead; for the same price I
paid for my Hasse body, 2 lenses, 2 backs and polaroids (all used
gear) I could have gotten a suitcase full of Bronica stuff and
still had money left over. Oh well.<p>
Bronica, Mamiya are also MF cameras that have interchanging backs.
I have used Bronica only occassionally. The SQAI is really a lot
like Hasselblad; costs a little less I think. I don't really like
the Mamiya RZ or RB cameras from Mamiya so I will let others
write about them.