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There is a strong sentence which is a moral one ,and touches our human life. I have found the right English translation :

 

"Do not cast me off in time of old age" ( Tehilim, chapter 71, verse 9)

 

Seeing both of them has connected me to that sentence.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Beautiful picture, it brings me old memories of walking with my grand-father (though of course that was not in Jerusalem).

The light brings out beautifully the texture and polish of the stone pavement. The flare is not a flaw here but rather adds mystery to the scene.

Regards, Tibi

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Tibi,I'm pleased it has brought you memories of your grandfather. As the world population has a longer life expectancy this problem becomes more acute.It was heart warming to see those two, Thanks for writing your impression.

 

Alberto thanks as well for both of them.I appreciate it.

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So much is communicated by those joined hands. I think of how we just lead children through dark places and how they have to trust that we know where we're going....
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A very touching shot, and a timely one for me. I'm experiencing an ongoing saga with my dad......aging and dementia issues causing much hostility in him. This wonderful verse you've included reminds me to be patient, as difficult as it is. And although I agree with Jeff, it reaches a point where the tables are turned and it is the younger generation's turn to lead....a difficult transition to be sure.
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Hello Pnina, This is a very nice photo I think. It is nicely composed, there is a real mood, and it's rather touching seeing these two together... I also appreciate the ascribed moral sentence.

However, to tell you the truth, I personally find the the white lens flare unfortunate and a bit distracting, and think that it would have been much nicer without that... (Hope you don't mind me saying this :-) Kind regards, Marjolein

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Interesting to note that they are walking away from the light and into the darkness.

 

I agree with Marjolein regarding the lens flare. It is easy enough to fix. I'll attach a version without the flare. I also darkened down the boy and man and adjusted slightly the overall contrast. On my monitor the boy and man are too dark to have any significant detail yet the underexposure reveals a lot of noise and posterization, which is less evident when the figures are darkened. They also seem to stand out from the surrounding a bit more and the guy heading the other way to the left of the boy and man is less evident.

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Jeff, you are right , we lead our children toward what we think we know, (and that is not always true as you know ).... but one day the roles are changed, I have had it with my parents. I think that we all create through our life experiences, seeing both of them was very touching as the child was the real "leader".

 

Alex, it was a very strong back light but it showed the bond between the two,thanks for your stopping by.

 

Christal, I was passing this saga with my father, dementia for 5 long years. It was really hard and took me a long time to overcome, I know what you are passing through, as it is a change of character that is occurring with a lot of hostility My father was such a nice man when healthy and many things has changed with the development of his illness . You need a lot of patience . I wish you to have the strength. It was very touching the change of roles that I felt, seeing that child with probably his grandfather.

 

Marjolein, If you comment, I prefer that you will always tell me what you really think. I was aware of the flare, but it was the only frame I took (usually I take 2-3 frames, if I can), this was not possible.They were in a dark alley( walking toward the exit) and the light outside was strong. I thought that the scene is worth and telling more than its technical flaw ;-)).....I appreciate your honest evaluation and feelings .

 

Gord, We were writing together, they were walking toward the exit, but your skills with PS are much better advanced than mine, and you really made your version better than mine. Please can you email me how you did it? I will appreciate it. (I don't see the noise on my monitor though and what do you mean by posterization? )OK, I went to find out what posrerization means.....thanks for your help Gord, I appreciate it so much. I knew it is not perfect and still I thought as I wrote to Marjolein that it is worth despite .... but you have shown me that it can be corrected and better ,and I will learn from it.Thanks again

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Pnina;

 

I'll write you an email detailing what I did ,which was not very advanced, so not hard to explain.

 

The posterization and noise don't really show up too much at the smaller size and may well not be present at all in your original full sized file. Because I was working on your photo as a small file and had to blow it up to do so, the noise came more to the forefront of my attention than it might have otherwise.

 

I think this is a charming and nicely composed photo well worth some additional work. The light spilling into the scene and its appearance on the cobblestone makes me jealous of the wonderful streets and structures you have to photograph.

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What a wonderful image. Of course, as a doting grandparent, I can greatly appreciate the image and the thoughts behind it. Gord's removal of the flare is a definite improvement. I don't always get worked up about flare, but in this case it detracts. Hope you are well.
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Thanks both of you.

 

Gord, thanks for sending me instruction how to correct it, I really appreciate your taking the time. I learn all the time. I will print it and start doing it. I have checked the big file and there is no noise there.so it was as you thought your working on the small size.

 

Dave, glad to see your comment here, Gord is a great help and the image looks much better in his example.

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Hi again, Pnina, I should have known that I can say what I (really) think about your photos to you :-)

However, I should take note, because, after 2-3 months on PN, I come to understand that some people do not always appreciate critical comments and/or suggestions...

BTW, the photo really has improved a lot with Gordon's input! --

Have a good WE!

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Pnina,

 

I dropped by to admire your portfolio. And I turned again to this lovely shot. I had to laugh, because I was positive I had commented on it earlier. But now, I think I must have just wandered off into my own memories of holding my grandfather's hand at the county fair as I looked at this shot. So now, I actually will comment.

 

Beautiful image, it tells its own story very well and I like the dramatic blacks. I hadn't noticed the lens flare the first time, but in reading the comments, I went back and was able to see it. Honestly, I get so much out of not just the images, but the comments. I'm learning to see more critically or perhaps I should say with more discernment simply by looking at what artists and photographers like yourself chose to post and what others say about those posts whether good or bad, it doesn't matter as long as it's done with respect and the vast, vast majority of PN posts are respectful and caring.

 

Bah, I've wandered off again. Sorry. Loved the photograph, it's a good one.

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Hi Hans, it was a nice surprise to see you again after a long absence, Thanks for letting me know ;-))

 

Marjolein, It is the only way to really learn and develop. I have learned a lot from real critique and dialogue, as for me, if there is no dialogue I don't see the reason. As long as the critique is constructive ( also my English is better now....;-))

I know that some don't like it....you don't have to always accept , but it is important to listen and think about it. You are right the photo is much better with Gordon's help and I will work on it again.Thanks for your follow up.

 

Mark, we wrote together,...and I really appreciate your follow up ,and willing to develop, your seeng it again with "new " eyes , your memories, as I wrote to Marjolein, the dialogue is always fruitful ..Thanks !

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the fact that they are in the shadow force me to imagine my own story of grandfather and grandson...this process from the particular to the general is something I find wonderful in this photo Pnina...open images help the interested viewer to make his part of the job rather than say woaow and pass to another one...
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My feelings on this one has to do with not having Grandparents at all. They were dead on my mother side and far away and primitive on my father side. They scare me with impolsive reactions. I saw them 3 or 4 times in my life. Any way your image has cause lots of feeling from others and I have read every single one. I love the reactions and the oportunity to feel the pain again, which is a kind of catharsis that we all need again and agin in order to let go of past trauma. Great presentation. Warm regards.
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Powerful and meaningful composition. So much is said through this pair walking together. A few weeks ago I started working at a secondary school (not by choice) and on my second day I saw a girl in sixth grade being handcuffed by a policeman and taken away crying. It turns out that she and another friend beat up an autistic girl outside of school. Everyday I have to deal with kids full of disrespectful and sometimes aggressive attitude. A lot of them come from disadvantaged and broken families and try their best to feel in control of their lives. I have seen adults being cursed at with every name in the book and challenged openly. Perhaps in light of these circumstances I can appreciate this composition even more for what it stands. Love and respect, especially for our elderly, seem like endangered traits.
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I've enjoyed this photo very much Pnina, and the discussion sourrounding it. The image has a timeless quality that is rare, and speaks to all generations.

 

Best, David

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Laurent " this process from the particular to the general" , was my aim seeing them together, I'm thankful to you for your comment and especially that sentence.

 

Jorge, I did not meet my grandparents ever, I have photos and stories told by my parents. Seeing them both brought a feeling of something esential missing , as I know how good it is to have my grandchildren.

 

Adan, I'm sorry to know about your work with so much aggressiveness around, but I think that our world in general is more aggressive, and especially are affected the weak chains in out societies.we look for peace, and love. So this one speaks of other kind of relations.

 

David, thanks for your visit and comment. I think that it touches each and everyone of us, because it has some human warmth in their touch.

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