ike k Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Just read this thread on DPreview.com. Geeezz this digital really kill film after all!. Any thoughts that Canon will follow? I don't have any Canon Film body right now but it's really a heartbreak news for Nikon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Wrong. DPreview and its typical misleading headlines...<p>The only think Nikon is exiting is the compact Point and Shoot camera market. <p><em> Kimura said Nikon had no plans to stop producing film SLRs, but that it may next year start considering pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand.</em> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Nikon press release?? Or someone giving another he said, she said statement? The Net is a great place to spread rumors, too. That's exactly what I'd expect to see about film bodies on DPreview. Unless it's on Nikon's website, this is a waste of space here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Hi Ike, I believe the article makes the distinction that Nikon is considering abandoning the compact film market as opposed to their SLR film market. That's not too surprising - APS has all but been abandoned too. I doubt Nikon will kill their film SLR market any time soon - I certainly hope the don't! Best wishes . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike k Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Yes, they also mentioned that other manufacturer such as pentax, Konica Minolta, Olympus will start a very affordable DSLR for under $1000, I bet they will sell for $700 something to anticipate DigiRebel and D70. Boy oh boy, still remember the song "Video kill the radio star"? and now "Digital camera kill the film camera star". Offcourse not now but soon... and very soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Not once the museums are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 With a few rare upscale exceptions Nikon never really did compete in the compact area anyway. The few times I was ever asked to make suggestions about compact 35's to buy the makers with the best models were Canon, Pentax, Minolta and Olympus. The Olympus Stylus Epic is as good as it gets. Maybe I should get one at $80 while it's still available?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Na.... I need a 50mm f1.8 more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_carroll Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 The company that continues to briing out delightful mechanical throwbacks like the FM3A isn't going to abandon the film market that easily. I don't even think a more marginal player like Pentax (another subject of "abandoning the film market" misinformation recently) will do so until digital SLR sales surpass film SLR sales worldwide, which won't happen until digital SLRs compete pricewise with film SLRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike k Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Last time I went to my local Calumet store in OC, california, I saw their film freezers only two of them filled up and before they were 4 freezers and one of the reps told me that digital really make their film sales suffer so I guess they are surpassing the film at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 >>pulling out of the film compact camera business due to a sharp plunge in demand.<< exactly - P&S were the cameras for the masses thus, the biggest sellers. Now, they have been replaced by digital P&S and/or DV cameras. Along with that comes the relative decline in film sales. Of course, Nikon will continue, for some time, to support the more serious SLR market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_thornborough1 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I'm a Canon user but the sentiments are similar. I concur wholeheartedly with Roger Hicks' "A matter of opinion" in the latest edition of Amateur Photographer, where he states (tongue in cheek): "there is not a great deal that I would miss if all digital cameras exploded tomorrow, preferably without unnecessary loss of life" They are here, and here to stay, so my attitude is simply "enjoy film while you can". And our film cameras, I strongly suspect, are going to last a great deal longer than we anticipate, even if food for rear end becomes more limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_carroll Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Ike, I don't think you can judge the world market for film based on one store in the "The OC" ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann_fuller Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 After seeing the results from my 300D (shooting RAW) and working with a 22mp Sinar back for my Hassleblad - the end of film is looking closer than I had expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanson Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 "<I>...working with a 22mp Sinar back for my Hassleblad - the end of film is looking closer...</I>"<P>Righto! $25,000 for a back to allow me to replace a roll of film costing what? $2 a roll (If you shoot APX 100 like I do).<P>The Sinar back news is as bleak as the Nikon no longer making any film camera news.<P>The end is near -- I guess me & my buddy Chicken Little will have to take up knitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_woodard Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I agree in the amatuer market where image quality is rather unimportant digital cameras excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_carroll Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Johann, respectfully, why do you believe that simply because you have found you can get excellent results from digital photography, that silver-halide based photography should be and will be soon wiped from the face of the earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 What is an amatuer? What's the point of trolling like this? Ike, can't you read what was really said in the interview? I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Sheesh, I haven't seen a Nikon point 'n shoot in stores for years. Only Canon, Pentax, Olympus & Minolta. I think Nikon was weak in the point 'n shoot market long before the digital craze hit main street. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Everything Nikon's made since the F3 has been downhill, it's fine with me if they exit the photo business altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike k Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Ilka, Sooner or later... digital will... and film camera will...that's my point of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann_fuller Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I should have said the end of film use 'for me' is going to be sooner than I thought. For sure film is still going to be available for the long term - it's just that i'm not likely to be using it for everyday work. I'm still holding on to a basic Leica M kit for shooting B&W for personal projects - but for commercial jobs I just can't see a reason to use film anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 >>in the amatuer market where image quality is rather unimportant digital cameras excel.<< ALL the PJ & sport photographers I know use digital. The vast majority of commercial studios I have visited use digital backs. Virtually ALL the ads I have seen for assistants are looking for people familiar with Phase One digital backs. More and more fashion photographers are using digital, virtually all catalog work I have seen done of late for companies like JC Penneys etc... is done digitally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Maybe Kodak and others will drop the glut of shitty consumer-grade print films. I know I wouldn't lose any sleep if Kodak decided to stop selling 'MAX'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_carroll Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 >>for commercial jobs I just can't see a reason to use film anymore.<< Yes, it seems like the reasons are diminishing. But there still are some reasons. Photojournalists, particularly those publishing books or shooting for glossy magazines, or conversely, those shooting for small and poor publications, still shoot a lot of film. Wedding and portrait photographers, too. Astronauts use film. And passport photographers. OK, maybe I'm reaching now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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