david_s4 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I've checked the <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=003hs6">archives</a>, but no responses address the Small Hadley in particular. The interior is 2 3/4" deep according to specs and my M is 3+" tall. Does an M with lens attached fit well facing to the side? <p> For now I only have an M, 35 Asph Cron and hood, and would welcome other everyday carrying suggestions (it needs <i>some</i> protection from chairs and table edges). Has anyone compared the compactness and ease-of-carry between the Small Hadley and the Leica-Bilingham Combination bag? <p> For anyone else considering, prices at <a href="http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/bags.htm">Robert White</a> are better ($50 less at current exchange) than US dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 That's what David Alan Harvey carries: a Leica M6 and a 'cron 35/2 lens. Okay, he has a lot of Velvia with him as well. Check out a small article on this issue American Photo magazine for a titled article: Cuba Sunset, page 52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I mean that's ALL he carries, not just what he carries, according to the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I use a Hadley to carry a M3 with a Summicron and hood back to back with a Nikon F and 135mm lens. I can stuff a 90mm Elmar, film, etc in the front pockets and drop a Profisix meter in its case on top of the Nikon. The Hadley can be much wider than the specs suggest because it will distort quite easily. I've often dropped the M3 into it with the M-Meter attached to give you some idea how far it will expand. I thoroughly recomend it.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I recently bought the Adorama "Slinger" for only $40. It's great, especially at that price. It's about the same size as a Hadley (not sure which model Hadley I saw), fits my Leica M with several lenses, and has an odd strap that lets you carry the bag either over your back or swung around to the front. Beware that it is designed to be carried on your right side, and I forgot to ask if they make a left side bag. Check Adorama's web page for a description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Harvey!! Your Hadley is a disgrace man. Get the nail brush and the Lux out right now and scrub like a demon. I also have a disgusting old khaki Hadley but cured this by wife buying me nice new black (with black leather trim) Hadley at xmas time :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_martin3 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Check out the Fogg bags at Tamarkin (www.tamarkin.com). I use the Xylophone for my M7 with 50mm Elmar and it fits very easily (a larger lens would fit easily). This bag is much smaller than the small Hadley, but sized for the M. Fogg makes many more bags in the Leica M system size category than Billingham. Construction quality is similar, though Fogg is a bit old world in its dividers and details by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Take out the inside removable pocket, line the bag interior instead with fuzzy velcro material and use it that way. You get much more interior space and the bag much less stiff, so cameras + lenses fit better and the bag moulds much, much better to the side of your body. Because you've now got velcro material covering the bag interior, you can directly attatch foam dividers to it & it also protects your lenses from bumps and scratches. Along with cutting off the strap & stitching on 38mm D-rings (so I can use any strap I like with the bag), I did the velcro mod. a few years ago and since then have been better satisfied by the bag's increased internal capacity. Mind you, I don't use the bag so much now as it still looks too much like an effeminate Man-Bag for my taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 If you think the Hadley's a disgrace, Trevor, you should see the 335 but, what the hell, that only has Eoses in it.... <grin> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_jones4 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Trouble with the Hadley small is that it looks like a hand bag. This may be a problem for 2 reasons, the second of which is that people like to steal hand bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips1 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I've got a Hadley small, and love it. Fits a M6 with a 35 preA cron and hood attached (vertical) another (or two non teles back to back) and either another lens or plenty of film. Front pockets hold a filter wallet, Sharpie, batteries, and maybe (if it isn't on my belt) a small incident light meter. Great bag. Got mine from Rich Pinto (less than B&H) though shipping was a bit high. Wish it had a Domke gripper strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_s4 Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 Thanks for your replies so far. The drawback of the DAH approach is that while I carry the camera everyday, I'm not focused on photography all the time, so I'd like a modicum of protection when doing other things or setting the camera down for a while. <p> Harvey's post about the Hadley distorting and Andrew N's suggestion to remove the insert assuage my concern about fit. While I don't think I'd perform Andrew's surgery, the bag without insert is probably protection enough (compared to the camera slung over a shoulder). <p> I followed up on Thomas' post about the <a href="http://www.foggspecialistbags.com/xylophone.htm">Fogg Xylophone</a>. The pouch is elegant and the right size, but dern it's expensive (costing $179 at <a href="http://www.tamarkin.com/catalog/products/fogg/cases.html">Tamarkin</a>). <p> And your comments about the Hadley's handbag appearance are troubling. I suppose that can be countered by using a messenger bag, but the ones I've seen online by <a href="http://www.courierwareusa.com/level.itml/icOid/20">CourierWare</a> seem large (even the extra-small is 14" long) and the ones I've seen in person by <a href="http://www.crumplerusa.com/products/camerabag.html">Crumpler</a> seem boxy and very heavily padded. <p> The camera would fit into one of <a href="baghttp://lowepro.com/pages/byStyle/pouches.htm">LowePro's</a> point-and-shoot pouches, but they're generally not deep enough to accommodate the lens with hood attached. Any other suggestions or advice would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_s4 Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 Todd, would one of the <a href="http://www.billingham.co.uk/prodbuy.asp?id=80">Billingham Shoulder Pads</a> help out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips1 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 David, Yes, the Billingham shoulder pad would probably help. I ordered one for the small Hadley from Rich Pinto, but that's been over 9 months ago and, apparently, he can't get them. I haven't tried B&H because, well, I've been "making do" without it. Don't worry about the appearance of the bag. It is classy looking, but I'm thinking thieves will be looking more for Coach or Prado than a bag that (really) looks like a trout fishing bag. I'm thinking of getting a Hadley Pro or Hadley Large for my SLR gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dawn Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Hi i have been using the small Hadley bag for a long time and really liked it for wat it does. i have a M6TTL with 35 f2 ASPH, m3 + 50 f2 cron, SF20 flash and tons of film in it. But even today, i still get snide remarks about how it looks like a ladies' handbag (and it does, admittedly). my ideal bag would be something that looks a bit more, uh, manly :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_s4 Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Hmm, has anyone seen or used a <a href="http://www.saundersphoto.com/html/body_accss.htm">Domke</a> model 710-10 (Compact Pouch) or 710-30 (Belt Pouch)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noscreenname Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Get a Tenba P211. This one will end your search. It i s perfect for 1 RF body and 3 lenses (and their hoods) + small stuff. Has space for more film than you will use in one day (around 18 rolls ins flat storage box). Protects properly from the elements. Does not scream "CAMERABAG - EXPENSIVE STUFF - STEAL NOW!". Does not look so oldy worldy like a Billingham. And handles just very nicely and naturally. I lived truly happily ever since I bought one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raul_del_rosario Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 David, You could also try a Billingham Alice aka L2 bag. It's almost the same size as the Billingham Leica M bag. Can hold an M with 35 or 28 'cron, another M body sans lens, a 50 'cron or 90 Macro Elmar and a 15 mm Heliar in the main compartment (you'll need two 'trapdoor' inserts like the one that comes with the Billy Leica M bag). The front compartment can take a small strobe, a Sekonic 308 meter and lots of film. If your dealer will let you fiddle with the goodies, try this configuration. It works for me. Cheers, Rollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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