john_boyle3 Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Just acquired a IIIf RD similar to my first Leica of 40 years ago. A search concerning loading film on the old Leicas seems to favor cutting the leader, preferably using the ABLON template. I just loaded the camera using the instructions from Ozdoba, but would like to find the template. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip_williams Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 There are several sites with info on cutting the leaders, one of which is here: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/marine/569/rusrngfdrs/leicaleader.html Another thread on this topic: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=002m5u Personally, I've never cut my film with my Leica LTMs, but I usually just wind the film it onto the takeup spool so that the leader is already wound past the sprokets. This way, I waste maybe 1-2 frames, but it's much easier than worrying about film chips or cutting the leader. IMO, the ABLON template isn't worth it's inflated cost. You could always make one though, if you're really anal about it. I thought I remembered that someone in Japan was making reproduction templates, but I haven't searched for it. Check the archives here or search the LUG (Leica Users Group) archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 John; The templates can usually be found on e-bay in the $100 range. If you don't see one, just be patient because they appear regularly. When I had my IIIf I used to cut my film with scissors, but without a template, by simply angling the cut for about four inches up the film from the end. Works just fine. Never had a problem with loading. Enjoy your camera. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_reither1 Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I made mine out of thin but firm cardboard (from a pkg of Epson photo paper, I think.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I've seen multiple listings of reproduction ABLON's on eBay. I'm surprised Abrahamsson doesn't make them, he's got the machining and the knowhow. Until you get one, pick up a pair of curved cuticle/manicure scissors at the drugstore (or chemists if you live in the UK), face the curve one way to go from the half-width to full-width and turn the scissors around to curve the top of the full width, making sure not to leave an open sprocket hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_boyle3 Posted February 6, 2004 Author Share Posted February 6, 2004 Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not a collector and won't be looking for the ABLON on eBay. The trim on the first film seems to have worked, but I'll try Skip's method with the next one. I took a lot of fine pictures with my first IIIf, which was inherited from my father. Unfortunately it was stolen from my sister while I was in the US Army during the Vietnam war. I picked this one up for nostalgic reasons, but it won't replace my M2 and M4. Jay - thanks for the suggestion re. the curved sissors. Should be easier than the ones I used. BTW, I'm in Ontario, Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Gave my ABLON awaw years ago, but was fascinated by a knock-off on eBay for about $30. It works OK but why bother, once you get the hang of it you can do a quicker trim by eye with a pair of scissors. Just don't leave any sharp edges or things that will break off and jam the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smith13 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I have two RD's and load them using a thin plastic wallet calendar. First you slip the plastic card into the back of the camera and then place the film between the card and the back wall of the camera, making sure you have wound the film onto the take-up spool past the leader. Remove the card and the film sprockets will engage the teeth on the sprocket wheel. If not, wind the advance knob until they do engage. There is no need to trim the film using this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger c Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Extend the thin part of the leader by another 14 sprocket holes. Or do as others have suggested, and slip a thin card between the shutter and the back, then slide the film in behind the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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