WJT Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 While doing a google search of my name I came upon the following website :http://desnudas.blogger.com.br/2003_11_01_archive.html#14460549. Oneof my photographs from PhotoNet has been ripped there. Several otherphotogs from PhotoNet, such as Tammy Agoli and Floris Andrea have beenripped as well. I did not authorize the use of my photographs to beused in this manner. Is there anything we can do to stop this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernhard Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Well the author of that site credited you as the photographer and judging from the babelfish translation (see below) he/she is quite fond of the the photograph and maybe you as well. I would write her a love-letter/email and see what happens ... *** babelfish translation *** West of Po'ipu, photo of Walter Tatulinski I love you because you were in my soul as a dawn... Because you were (and it it is) what it had of being I love you for being who is, and as she is, and for having appeared in my life to make to be born the Sun in me, this Sun that we call LOVE. Kiss you with immense affection, d. E I repeat: I love you. Its Lila *** end of babelfish translation *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Walter, I think she likes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinhenry Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I can see Walter blushing! <br><br>Well, at the least I would reccomend that you do not break this poor girl's heart. How about you compose a nice e-mail and babblefish it into her language, politely asking her to remove your artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john falkenstine Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 See that! And it is in Portugese, a beautiful soft language..I don't think they were copied for profit or theft...you should E-mail her!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerald_widen Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I would email her and see when she is comming to your town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 Well, as far as I can tell, all of you are way off base on this. The thief is a person called Lila who seems to be composing a Blog for someone called Diabolin. I could be wrong, I don't understand the language, but I think it is a gay relationship. As I said originally, I'm not the only one whose photographs are being ripped. Bob Hixon is another PhotoNet photog being effected. The Blog is in Portuguese. Can anyone help me out here. I think sending an email to Lila requesting the removal of the unauthorized images is a good first step. I enjoy posting my photographs on PhotoNet. I think other photogs enjoy looking at them. But if this unathorized use can't be corrected the only alternative for me would be to remove my portofolio, or post at such a low resolution that the viewing enjoyment would be greatly diminished. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Keith Laban had some of his pictures "taken" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougs Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 personally , i would be flattered, no one it seems, is making money off your photos, so whats the dif? if she wasn't honest, you would have never found your pics.....she would have taken credit for them... just my humble opinion as always.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 There's no way photo.net can control what people do with the images you post here. If you post images you have to accept someone may take them and use them for purposes you haven't approved of or don't even know about. It goes with the territory. If you want to keep your images all to yourself, don't post them anywhere on the internet. <p> While it might be nice if everyone who ever used an image from the web had to get the copyright holder's permission first, that just isn't going to happen. The world doesn't work that way. <p> The photo.net terms of use state : <em>...You agree not to reproduce or distribute, or cause to be reproduced or distributed, any material on the Site, without the express prior permission of both photo.net and, in the case of copyrighted materials, the copyright owner, except for such reproduction as occurs in the normal course of reading or viewing the materials using a Web browser...</em> - but there's nothing anyone can do if someone ignores that except take legal action. In the vast majority of cases this is neither desirable nor economically viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_pictaker Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Thanks for bringing this to my attention Walter. I appreciate your concern, and I was concerned myself when I read my name in your post, but after visiting the site I relaxed. As Douglas said it doesn't look like anyone is making any money off the shots, it just looks like she/he found some images that went along with her/his poetry. The theft of images from the web is a problem but in this case I see no real harm, at least as far as I'm concerned. If he/she were selling the images as wallpaper then I'd be in a snit! Since I was there I used a free translation service to see what was posted with my shot. Here it has: a lot nostalgia, a heart pulsating tight, hands trembling, the vagueness of the future, but the certainty of the present, has Maria Retain touching to the bottom, has you far from me, has I it write things fools pra call sweats attention and you without be able to access to internet, has tear in the corner of the eyes, has nose draining, has telephone that not for of touch, has more nostalgia,journey of of of, has the certainty of the tomorrow raiar, also has a his son inside me that cries in my womb, has kisses guarded and affection fold, has a curriculo it be reformulado that guarantee the my future, has fear of leave of home, of move from job, has will of flee with you for Morocco and himself lose in the Measure and he be found us hisAnd intraterrestre, he has you doubt you of me, he has I having that he get around the plates from my scale, and the bill in the bank, he has I, he has you, the distance and two hearts. What do I do when he has everything that, except the essential one, that he is You? "has nose draining" is my favorite part. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yeah, happenes all the time. My Leica Digilux review (and photos) was stolen by a site somewhere in asia. I wouldn't stress on it too much. There really isn't much you can do about it. Other than choose not to post photos here or put big "WALTER" watermarks through your photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_laban Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I�m sorry to have to say it but I�m disappointed. I�ve highlighted this problem on at least two occasions in the last couple of months. I�ve provided links to sites that are hot linking my images and those of other contributors and was under the impression that hot linking by known offending sites could be blocked. Unfortunately nothing seems to have been done.<p>I believe that if I were not a subscriber then hot linking of my images would not be possible. It does seem ridiculous that in order to solve this problem I would have to cease to be a subscriber to photo.net. Surely being a Patron should result in benefits, not abuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougs Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 keith they didn't link the pics in walters case, the saved them and posted them to their own site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Keith, the two pages to which you posted links were getting the images directly off the photo.net server, rather than having copied them from photo.net to their own sites. A few days after your post, I was startubg to work on blocking people from retrieving images from our server when the "referer" was one of those two domains. However, one of the links no longer worked, and the other one seemed to have been changed to a page that didn't have any photos on it. I tried to find the page that you had originally posted (which I had seen), but I couldn't. Both of the sites looked like blogs, by the way. Incidentally, many subscribers consider it a "feature" to be able to have photo.net host images for their blogs, auction sites, other photo forums, watch collectors forum sites, etc. When we started blocking image hosting for non-subscribers in August 2002, we got a huge jump in the subscription rate for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougs Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 dont feel bad Walter, looks like someone has requested a critique for a photo that just happens to be in the "free preview" area of a porn site...hey he could be the photographer....i guess........ oh yeah, how did i know...he left the hidden copyright notice intact on one photo in his folder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Doug, can you send me the URL of the photo you just described? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougs Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Brian, check your mail.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Walter, she also used a couple of photos of mine and it's quite fine with me since she credited me along the pictures, besides it looks like a poetic blog of some sort with very tender and nice sayings. No big deal I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_laban Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Brian, many thanks for your response. I appreciate that being able to hotlink is considered by many contributors to be a benefit. However I do feel that an opt out for those subscribers who have no use for the hotlink facility would equally be of benefit.<p>I am trying to limit where my images appear on the web to my own website, stock agencies, photo.net and one or two other sites such as Hasselblad, but hotlinking is making my life difficult. Unfortunately all the hotlinking of my images seems to stem from photo.net rather than my own or other sites. <p>The offending sites do in the main seem to be short lived, several having disappeared in the last month or two. One of the offending sites is still up and running though and is still hotlinking to my own and other contributors images from photo.net (please see link below). Can this be blocked? I do realise that there are probably other unknown offending sites that are not even crediting the photographers, but frankly if I don�t know of them then I can�t do anything about them and they aren�t worth loosing sleep over. TIA.<p><a href="http://www.xlmz.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=730&sid=8F4UkTT">link to offending website</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidweaverphoto Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 You can always Digimarc your images and subscribe to their service to see where they are appearing. I'd guess that there are refferer reports available to the site admins here (Analog reports?). Maybe be able to search the refferer report on a reffering site by photo ID in the "Your Portfolio" section. I'd be curious to know who was linking to my images, but not very curious. <BR><BR>I've really dislike whole image watermarks and very low quality jpegs, but this might keep people from using your images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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