richard s. Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Thinking of buying a Leica 0-Series. The reviews are mixed at best, the market price has sunk like a lead balloon, and there are few examples of photos taken with it on the web. Yet somehow I am drawn to it. My thought is to actually use it as one of my main cameras for travel - have a feeling that it might help me to develop a more unique perspective. Any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_ferguson1 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Why not try an early screw mount Leica? I'll sometimes take a 1932 Leica II along for the day. I wouldn't claim it produces special results, but it's enjoyable to occasionaly use a 70 year old icon, and it's the real deal as opposed to the ersatz 0-Series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 That seems a bit silly. Unless I'm mistaken, with the "O", you need to put the lens cap on just to wind the film due to the primitive shutter. It's analogous to using a Wright Flyer to go from Boston to New York. A Steerman would be a lot more practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence1 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 i bought and sold a leica o-series last year. but as a previous user i can tell you it's no fun at all to use. it's more a toy than a camera. a screw mount leica in good condition is probably what you should look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal dimarco Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Richard, If you want to experience Leica Photography ala 1923, by all means, get an 'O' series camera. I've played with a loaner, and half the time I forget to put the lens cap on when winding the film and the other half of the time, I forget to take the cap off when shooting a picture. The lens is excellent. The camera delivers top flight 35mm quality of allthe ease of 4x5. Happy Snaps, Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 If you have a camera at the moment, try using it by (1) holding it at a distance from you when using it, (2) without looking into the viewfinder (folows logically from [1]), (3) make a cardboard cutout frame for framing the view you would like to capture, (3) put the lens cap on every time you wind the film forward.<P>There, I just saved you from buying a lead balloon! However, I can understand your sentiment: <I>"... Yet somehow I am drawn to it. ..."</I> for it explains the gestalt of Leica that a lot of people experience. Thanks for your candidness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_elwing Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 If you can get one at a good price, why not. Apart from having to keep the lens cap on while winding on, the main irritation will be loading film, presumably using an extended length leader. Optics are reportedly good. Take care while you are travelling; thieves will probably think it is a mobile phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob haight Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I would pass on this one. The current price reflects that the camera is really more trouble than its worth after the "newness" wears off, which apparently doesn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_l._doolittle Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 It take some getting used to. You have to think and be slow and deliberate. It makes one appreciate modern advances but the results are excellent. I believe you'll be a better photographer from the experience. It's a jewel of workmanship. Enjoy, but remember there is a learning curve and a few flubbed shot as you learn the shutter is not self-capping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett_davis1 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Don't forget it's a pain to set the shutter speed, too, as you have to do it before the shutter is fully recocked. It's a fairly easy thing to use it as an "aperture priority" camera, though, as changing the aperture is done in the standard Elmar style. The viewfinder takes some getting used to but I have found it to be accurate, although you could also consider getting one of the Cosina/Voigtlander 50mm finders. It isn't the fastest camera around, that's for sure, but it is tiny and easy to carry, takes great pictures, and isn't that hard to use smoothly once you get the hang of it. I do not enjoy the film-loading process, I have to say. I'm considering carrying mine as my only camera on a trip to Italy (but I probably won't). What are they selling for now, by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolaresLarrave Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Richard, the camera won't help you "develop a more unique perspective," you do. In fact, every time you want to take a picture, stop yourself and wonder if there's yet another way to snap the shot. You can do it with any camera. Now, if you're so inclined to get this gizmo, by all means do, but if I were you, I'd go for a folder camera and 120 film. That has done it for me (remember to cock the shutter, wind up the film, deal with funny shutterspeeds and make sure you don't double-expose the film). In any case, have fun shopping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_chu2 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Richard, I took delivery of one earlier this week. It is a nice compact package. All the drawbacks have been previously mentioned; but yet, there is a certain attraction to the machine. I think Sal put it best, the care that must be exercised to put an image on film is like shooting with a view camera. As such, your images may be very well composed. A "decisive-moment" instrument it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_demas1 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Richard... I own have owned an O-Series for about a year and a half and I really enjoy it. The lens is dynamite and, when used properly, it can do a really nice job. It actually does make you "stop and think" a bit more before shots so. at times, you can have a slightly different perspective on things. That said... I would NOT recommend taking it as a primary camera on a trip. As a part time shooter to have some fun, sure, but not as a primary. There are alot of mistakes you can make in everyday usage, like not capping the lens before every shot, that will ruin the photos. I always use my M7 for anything really important, the O for when I am out on a Sunday just having some fun. I have a Contax T3 (forgive me Leica fans, I have a CM too :) which is terrific for travel.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprouty Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 <I>Every</I> camera requires you to work in a certain way. My M6 is different than my SLR: in loading film, in focusing, in what way I turn the aperture ring, how I set the iso setting, etc. <P> Heck my Holga requires a double exposure every time I use the flash. Once with the flash on to capture the image then once with the flash switched off and the lens cap back on because for some reason the flash always fires for two exposures, no matter what. Then of course there is the tape over the film advance wheel, and the tape over the film count window, and the little pieces of film boxes jammed under the film take-up spools, and the�well you get the idea. <P> An �0� is what it is, if the method of use suits you, you may be very happy. Just try it first, because a $20 piece of plastic it�s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_tisdale Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 Well, I can appreciate the allure of the camera. I admit having visions of Rodchenko & Lissitsky dancing in my head. I bought one at a reduced price from a dealer & have not regretted the purchase. It does take some getting used to for all the reasons stated by others. My main cameras are a Minox GTE & Ricoh GR-1s. The 50mm lens is the real difference for me & that perspective, more than the operation of the camera. I wouldn't use it as a travel camera alone, not when I have my other two cameras available. All three fit together in a small descrete army-surplus handbag, however. I downloaded the manual for the new Digilux-2 recently & was bewildered by the operational choices. The O-camera's manual is wafer-thin by comparison & easy to assimilate. Apple & Orange grove comparison, clearly. I've had three 8 x 10" photo enlargements from the O-camera that really pleased me. A much more kowledgeable friend said, "Ah, that Leica glass...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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