jason neymeyer Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 A very bad thing happened today. I was at a photo shoot and my tripod got knocked over. It, and my Hassy 503CW fell 4ft and crashed to the floor.<BR> The lens came off and there were a few pieces laying nearby. It turns out that three of the four tabs in the body that hold the lens in place broke.<BR> The lens did mount back to the body and I tested the shutter and aperture, both seemed to work fine. I shot a couple of polaroids and they looked ok<BR> as well. The person who knocked it over feels very bad.<BR> <P> Has anyone out there ever had this problem and gotten it repaired. I'm trying to figure out what I might cost me. The body seems to be ok except for<BR> the broken tabs. There are a couple of close ups <A HREF="http://www.jasonneymeyer.com/crack.jpg">here</A>, and <A HREF="http://www.jasonneymeyer.com/missing.jpg">here</A>. <CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.jasonneymeyer.com/frontview.jpg" WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=613 VSpace=10 BORDER=0 ALT=""></CENTER> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason neymeyer Posted September 9, 2003 Author Share Posted September 9, 2003 Sorry, that should have been "what it might cost me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_burlew Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 I have dropped two 'Blads over the years and I never lost a lense like this. I think you better own up to the truth that this camera did more than fall. You must have been rushing to do something and someone hit the tripod and it all went flying. Personally I think you are a complete #$#@*&$*^*^@$ goof for posting your )@$(@$)*(@$)(& up. Get a new body and get a life. AND don't sell the bruised body on EBAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d._diehl Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Nice previous post Edward - way to be a supportive member of the community... Maybe some anger issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_jones1 Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Don't know what it might cost-best bet is to bite the bullet and send it to Hasselblad USA or a local authorized repair facility. Bet it ain't as bad as you might think....or maybe...But you will need Hassy parts and all that, so get it in to a repair facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Edward! You know what your mommy said about coming to Photo.net without taking your medications! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._kenny Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 ouch. i think you've broken the lens mounts. looks like a replacement part, not a job for your leatherman (admit it, you thought about it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_ford1 Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 I hope that they aren't part of the main body casting... (shudder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db1 Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 hey edward, Personally I think you are a complete #$#@*&$*^*^@$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tor_kviljo1 Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 The Hasselblads consist of inner & outer box. The front of the inner box consist of an abouth 0,8cm thick square piece of aluminium. The lens mount is machined out of this one (thus - oddly enough - both the camera body & lens bayonets of the original/older Hasselblad models is machined from aluminium, not chromed brass or stainless steel as in other makes (stainess steel being used in the newer Hasselblad lenses - at least CB's)). On rear side is of this plate You find the gears & rotating shaft for shutter/aperture mechanism. This front plate/lens mount piece can thus be replaced separate from the main inner-box casting if the latter is not out of shape due to the crash. However - opening up & changing major inner-body parts probably is a job taking some time & parts = expensive... It will anyhow be important that You have the lens to film distance as well as lens to screen distance checked to see that they are identical & within tolerance as these distances may suffer from such a major impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsbc Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 David, to be honest I don't think Edward is a #$#@*&$*^*^@$. He is, however, definitely a 2&;3%0_-0*&! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hey, <br>I know sh#t about Hasselblads, but I love the second close-up picture you attached, with yourself reflected in the chrome button!:o) <p> Hope this helps too!(morally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_haykin Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Edward, you're all heart.....except for your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomweis Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 <p>Yeah that sucks, Jason. Well, put it in a box and ship it to Hasselblad in NJ. Then bill the person who knocked over your tripod for the repair.</p> <p>At least the the tripod attacker didn't do what my friend did - drop his 120mm Planar into a lake. That was the end of that.</p> <p>Just get it fixed. It'll be fine.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason neymeyer Posted September 10, 2003 Author Share Posted September 10, 2003 Thanks for your postings (except you Edward). BTW, I was shooting at an assisted living center for the elderly and one of the mentally handicapped persons ran into my assistant who fell backwards knocking the tripod over. The flooring was just your run of the mill tile over concrete I suppose. <P> Tor, thanks for your in depth explanation of the construction. I will get my test rolls back tonight and will check for critical sharpness with a loupe, that should determine whether or not anything else got knocked out of alignment. <P> This is the first major repair I've faced with my Blad (and yes the leatherman idea did run through my mind for a minute or two). Do you guys and gals out there who have needed major work find that Hasselblad USA in NJ is resonable in their costs. Or would it be better to find a repair source here in the Seattle area (or elsewhere in the USA)? <P> -Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan n. Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Any living center, retired home, nursing home have insurance to cover accidents and this an accident though that no injury involved.. check with the authority that run the center... the repair will be expensive, need to check the lens too... good luck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_f._stein Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hopefully, no one was hurt-that's the main thing. If it is economically repairable, then one day it could become your backup body. Depending on the assignment (i.e. ability to come back, NY Times Magazine ad for major automaker, you still had important images to take, whatever), this also shows the value of carrying a backup. GOOD LUCK with the REPAIR........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_kolosky Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Jason I write to let you know that others know of the sinking feeling you must have had when your camera went down. A few years ago I had a youngster knock over my 503cx with 150 lens and a12 while I was shooting a wedding. Both the body and back had to be scrapped for parts. Get ahold of David Odess for this job. He will give you a truthful appraisal of what the damage is. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db1 Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Jason, Send the body to Hasselblad in NJ. Take no chances and get it done right. Sorry it happened. ...david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk_arts Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 while i agree with edward, seems like something more happened than just a drop to the floor... I dropped my Contax down three steps once and only mildly damaged the filter ring... I'm sure Hasselblad can be compaired to Contax in build quality. You don't need to "get a life" anyone who gets that upset... well... The body might take the lens, but speaking as a photographer, and not a hasselblad photographer, i most certainly would NOT trust the mount! The whole thing could be weakened, and it just does not seem like it's worth trusting with your expensive lenses. I'd play it safe, it's 95% likely it would work just fine, but the 5% could cost you some $$! Contact Hasselblad for a service center, I am sure it can be replaired easily, it will likely cost you, it's Hasselblad, but I doubt it would cost as much as a new body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason neymeyer Posted September 13, 2003 Author Share Posted September 13, 2003 I'm not sure why there are some people who doubt my description of what happened. What possible reason would I have to lie when I'm trying to tap into the knowledge base here on the Medium Format Digest? Anyway, after talking to other Hassy users here in Seattle I took my camera to Camera Techs in Ballard yesterday. They're going to call Hasselblad to find out what the part is going to cost. <P> The technician also said he had never seen this particular failure. It makes me wonder if perhaps there was a manufacturing defect on that particular piece of metal. Maybe it got to hot or not hot enough during the casting process, I'm not a metalurgist. <P> After evaluating the test rolls, (shot after the damage) the chromes were both tack sharp and well exposed, so it looks like I dodged the bullet on any damage to the lens (whew!). <P> After I get the total bill for the repair, I will post it here for the archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.baxendell Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 "Get ahold of David Odess for this job. He will give you a truthful appraisal of what the damage is." As Kevin said you should look up David Odess in the members directory. He is a factory trained Hasselblad technician and should be able to tell you how serious your problem is. You might want to write to him in person rather than doing it through the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo_cavanha Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Jason, the fact that the camera was mounted in the (maybe heavy) tripod and that the lens hit the ground first (check for loose elements in the lens! shake it!) may explain how it did happen. If the mounts are machined from the body is OK for a precision point of view, but I didn't like to hear that they are made from aluminium... Other day I was in a cave (unfortunately I got no pictures that day - the film had stuck in the back! i was very stupid) and the camera almost felt from a height of 50 or more meters... fortunately it made only a scratch in the (black) body. I wonder if it could be repaired - if that scratch makes me feel bad, imagine how I would stay if I had lost the camera... my condolences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk_arts Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Leonard- That does make sense, if the lens fell at just the right angle, the combined weight of the tripod and the body could definitly pry the lens off the mount... Jason- I did not mean to accuse you of lying! Ofcourse you have no reason to lie! I was more saying that something happened, be it a failure in manufactering or coincidentally falling insuch a way that Hasselblad had not anticipated or figured was so rare it wouldn't happen. A camera of this quality should not have been rendered this extent of physical damage by a fall of four feet, unless the floor was cement, even then... It must have taken a HARD fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_burlew Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Peace bewith you. I just thought the whole idae of publicising a mistake or accident was ludricris. Like how does this posting aqdvance photography??? Like think about that!!! So go ahead and slam me. So what.I just want to know if the pics turmed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now