mike_lachance Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Just wanted to say hi to the list. After consultation with several Hasselblad Owners, I concluded there WAS a very REAL need for a new User-oriented (and 'Blad-User created!) Hasselblad website. Please help establish this new web resource by regsitering today (for free, of course) and posting anything of interest relating to these fine cameras on the message boards. I have many larger plans for the site, free email addresses, contests, giveaways, exhibits, ect.. Additionally, no personal information is given away or sold, to anyone. All such info is kept private. This means you will NOT find a ton of spam in your box the day after regsitering... (i really HATE that!) Again, http://www.hasselbladpro.com ... It went online just today, October 15, 2003, after only 1 day of initial webdesign and layout work, along with installing and cionfiguring the forums software... so the overall design right now is very preliminray... much is lacking... but so much is there already... Thanks for your time, and thanks in advance for your gracious support. Especially those who encouraged me to put this new site together! Mike LachanceHasselbladPro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Why do you think there is a need for another forum for Hasselblad users. What is it about this forum that does not meet your needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan heymann Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Mike, what do you mean with "the other sites are lacking at best"? I don't think that photo.net sells my e-mail. Compared to Nikon or Canon, there are only a few Hasselbladians out there. So far, they have been served well by photo.net's Medium Format Forum here, IMHO. And I don't think this will change in the future. So why do you see the need for a new forum? Sorry, for 17 new forums? Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_skibeki Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Mike: In my opinion, you want far too much detailed personal information in order to register. I can't imagine why you need it all. I certainly don't feel comfortable filling in all the required fields, even if you don't sell the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_katz1 Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 <i>"What is it about this forum that does not meet your needs?"</i><p> You're joking, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 No, I'm not joking. It's a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_laban Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I've never really understood the need for a dedicated Hasselblad forum. The Medium Format Forum contributors have between them a vast knowledge base of medium format cameras including Hasselblad and I can't really see a new Hasselblad Forum, hosted by photo.net or others, which would probably consist largely of many of the same contributors, offering anything more. I guess time will tell.<p><i>"What is it about this forum that does not meet your needs?"</i><p>Well Brian, I know you weren't asking me, but my answerwould be very little, although at times it can be rather like a dusty reference book with no real sense of community.<p>The only other thing I would say and I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm flogging a dead horse, is please make posting images to the forum easier. Of course No Words/Some Words/Words threads would be ideal, but I know the moderator is not keen on having them as part of the forum and ultimately it is his forum and his decision.<p>Apart from this the forum does a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_britt1 Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 No forum is on this site for superwides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 Yikes! Guys, Im sorry to have offended the Photo.net lovers.. I am also a lover of everything that is Photo.net... I have learned much and enjoyed the highly diverse offerings of this site. It is not Photo.net that I was referring to, not photo.net that i am trying to "replace" or "compete" with. Nonetheless, the problem is and remains, if there is one nagging problem with photo.net, it is that (as was mentioned) this is not a 'Blad specific community. It is a photography-wide community, far-ranging and reaching, from silver-halide sea-to-shining digital sea.... and as such, there is much to be lost in trying to cover as many bases as possible. www.hasselbladpro.com was an answer to a voiced need, and a recognition that yes, indeed, many hasselblad owners felt a new site that answered their needs more personally, and more specifically, would be a welcome change. As for "personal information"? What is it you do not want to submit? There is nothing asked on registration that could be used maliciously except your email address. But then again, these things tend to separate the "community" from the "sterility" of photo.net. Tell me what you dont want to "give-out" and I will consider that, directly, and perhaps adjust the registration process to better suit your own tastes. This is what I mean when i say the site is very close to the users and members who utilize it. Not a huge corporate monstrosity maintained by a few office lackies who have too many pots on the fire... As far as dissenters and supporters, its all fine by me. I'll take what I can get. Regardless, there is so much potential I am working with already, it is difficult to decide where to start. I am in the process of opening up the Gallery, and posting a photo is as easy as anyone could ask. The site is less than 1 week old yet, and already i am beginning to see it develop.. its an infant of a site... but with so much potential! Of course there is no way i could ever take away from Photo.net. It is huge. The tiny dent i might make would only benefit Hasselblad owners and enthusiasts, and do no harm to the success of photo.net. Finally, I invite this kind of debate and questioning. It is my DIRECT response to these concerns of us 'Blad users that will be reflected in my site. Keep the critiques coming and I will do my best to respond to them. Thanks again, and thanks to those of you who have already shown great support, both publicly and privately! Regards, Mike Lachance www.hasselbladpro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 Just a heads up, things are coming along nicely at the new site.... (www.hasselbladpro.com)... Some new visual dvelopments, and some great new members have helped kickstart the whole thing... As good as I could have hoped for at such an early stage (not even 2 weeks old!)... As was discussed, I don't plan on "replacing" what Photo.net has, but to quite clearly "supplement" it.. with a great 'Blad community. Check it out and see what we've done in only 2 weeks! Mike Lachance Admin. http://www.hasselbladpro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Mike,<br><br>You do know about focal plane shuttered Haselblad models, do you not? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 Of course I do. Is there something missing on the site you'd like to see added? Let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 Ahhh, I see what I had left out... Ive updated the Forums to include the 203 & 205's! So many models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Mike,<br><br>I hope you remembered the 2000 FC, the 2000 FC/M, the 2000 FCW, the 2003 FCW, the 205 TCC, the 201 F, and the 202 FA as well... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Mike,<br><br>I see you haven't.<br><br>It's a bad (!) idea lumping the 203 and 205 in one category with the "ancient" 1000-series Hasselblads. They are separated by approx. 40 years of Hasselblad history, and occupy quite different places in photographic and Hasselblad history.<br>So do keep the "ancient" Hasselblads separate, <i>and</i> include an "ancient Hasselblad" category devoted to the SW and SWA models.<br><br>What your site needs are additional, separate categories, one devoted to the 2000-series, another one devoted to the 200-series cameras.<br>They all are part of what now is called the "V-system", just like the 500-Series and SWC(...).<br><br>The "V-system" category thus should not just be 500-series cameras.<br>The SWC(...) is a part of the "V-system" deserving yet another subcategorie of "V-system".<br><br>And the category "500-series" must be split into a "manual wind" and "EL(...)" categories.<br>;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Thanks! Wow, lots of suggestions. That is the dilemma, I'm trying to keep the navigation fast and uncluttered, but, as youve thoroughly stated, there are indeed a large variety of model... and a few that I havnt yet added. I agree about keeping the "vintage / ancient" models separate from the newer ones... I just wanted to get some feedback on that to confirm my gut instinct (to keep them separate)... Again, this is where your feedback will help form the site into what you really feel is "correct" and proper. I will work on some of the "re-organisation" of the forums this weekend. Again, thanks for the suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 "fair play"? HA! That is laughable. I was kicked, banned and locked out of the (yourcameramfrname)info.com site for hasselblad just for posting a note telling people about my site. Never even contacted once to discuss before being banned. Not very "fair" if you ask me. Im flexible. Now, as far as copying? Well, excuse me, but you didnt invent the hasselblad model, lenses or accessories, so claiming i am copying your "structure" is a bit pious. Personally, Im using much better software, adding in much more flexibility, and most of all, listening to suggestions and the needs of many hasselblad owners with whom ive talked to. Additionally, I am no lone mercenary out to destroy your *info.com website(s), You deleted all diseenting posts regarding problems many were having with your blad site, and as they voiced their opinions, several of us discussed the desire to have a better site. I stepped up to the plate (and since i did not do this in "stealth" i was kicked and benned from your site. Real Fair. Pretty Lame actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 Dirk, it sounds as though you are throwing a temper tantrum. You refuse do believe that more than "2 or 3 friends" of mine were dissatisfied with your forums, (or fan page).. You can believe that if you wish, but it doesnt serve the needs of the community very effectively to hold on to that assumption with such blindered bias. Additionally, you feel i have no right to share my opinion on your forum. That speaks volumes in itself. Additionally, the fact that you will ban anyone who gives such an opinion, without even so much as a friendly warning speak equally of your maturity. I simply ask those readers who care to have some variety in what the web offers to check out your site (your cookie-cutter generic websites actually) www.hasselbladinfo.com... and ll the other camerainfo.com sites you run, and then take a look at www.hasselbladpro.com.. unless youve changed the whole layout and structure of your entuire site i find it hard to believe i am "copying" what you have. Competition is good. Deal with it and grow up please. Some may like your site better, others may like mine, or someone else. But it is my opinion, shared by "MANY" that yours is lacking in many areas. I have no interest in creating a website for every manufacturer of camera, nikon, minolta, pentax, lieca, canon, etc etc, you can do that, but this limits your time, devotion and overall effort invested into EACH. I do not have this dilemma. And for the time being, you still have much more traffic. Enjoy it, and take a chill-pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 Stop what Dirk? Defending strange and paranoid statements? Your site is good, but I see so much more potential... that is why i created pro. Simple. I have invested very little time into the site so far, but do have greater plans. I hope you also do. As it is, I am pleased with the initial results of my limited investment of time so far, and excited about what the future holds when i have the opportunity to develop the site further very soon. In the meantime, I'll look forward to reading your next slyly-loaded passive-agressive wolf-in-sheeps clothing response. They are all quite entertaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Mike and Dirk,<br><br>There's no point in you two arguing which of your respective sites is best, since the only place where you can really find all the information you'd ever need (and even that which you'll never need) about Hasselblad, the man, company and the goodies, is the Hasselblad User Group mailing list.<br><br><a href="http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad">http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad</a><br><br>;-) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 Ah yes, this is true. Nice to hear from you Q.G. You are indeed right. But what about "etiquette"?? How dare you post a link to a resource that "MIGHT" be (in some way?) competitive with the Photo.net content. If Dirk was running Photo.net he would have just kicked and banned you from ever participating in the Photo.net boards. (without even so much as a single email, note, warning or such) And this, in and of itself, speaks volumes about the character of the individual. Regardless, the "list" is the measuring stick to which all lessor web resources (mine and dirks both) should be measured against. In this regard we both have a tall order to fill. But the goal is not net-supremacy, not even slightly, the goal is to provide a resource option that some may choose over others to add to the richness and diversity of the net. A home for everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Mike,<br><br>Please, Sir, desist! No more! Let's play at being friends instead.<br>And if we try hard and long enough, we might actually become just that without even noticing.<br>;-)<br><br>Meanwhile, for all readers of this in dire need of some Hasselblad info, how about not going to either sites of these two gentlemen, not even to the HUG, until after you have tried the accumulated knowledge on Photo.net?<br>;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 QG, I am playing at being friends. My last post was 100% friendly. (ok, well 99%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_lachance Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 I want to thank everyone who has shown continued and growing support for the site! With minimal effort hasselbladpro.com continues to grow. It's nice to realize that the site is serving a useful purpose and many hasselblad owners are enjoying it! Thanks again, and best regards to everyone. Mike Lachance http://www.hasselbladpro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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