r s Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Some time ago I posted a question asking for recommendations for a small, well made SLR for my girlfriend. <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004xYr" >(original question) </a> <br> <br> I'd like to say thanks to everyone that were so kind to offer their suggestions. <br> <br> It came pretty quickly down to just two cameras but after she getting the 'look and feel' at the local camera store the decision was made. <br> <br> Here is the happy owner shooting away on the beaches of Maui <br> <br> Can anyone see what camera it is? (Bonus points for the lens :-)). (Lex, you're exempt :-) ) <br> <br> </blockquote> <hr width=300><blockquote>Hasselblad snapshot: <br> <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display? photo_id=1543111&size=lg"> </center><br><br> </blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 She looks absolutely delightful (and probably delighted) with that **-**. ;> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 It looks like a Canon AE-1 or AE-1 Program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimh Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Olympus OM-1 with Zuiko 50/1.8? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Canon FTB, with a breachlock lens (how about 50 f1.4)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted June 8, 2003 Author Share Posted June 8, 2003 No, no and no :-) It is a 50/1.4 lens though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constance_cook Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Nikon Fm3a. Conni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Olympus OM-2n with 50mm F1.4 Zuiko; MD body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 You guys are freaks:) gadget freaks:) Compositionally, in my oppinion, the position of the palm tree is not very succesful... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 csab' józsa; Some of us bought and sold equipment in the 1970's; etc; where one has to be knowledgeable of the equipment one is selling and buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Yeah kelly i understand. Wish it would be the same nowadays. Just two days ago I had to *convince* a guy at a camera shop that there *exists* that certain minolta accessory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wind.dk Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 If it isn't an OM-1, then it looks like an OM-2 to me. And the lens is, let's see, it's... it's... it's a 50mm/1.4, yes, a 50mm/1.4, Zuiko very likely. Whatever it is, it seems to fit in her hands :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted June 8, 2003 Author Share Posted June 8, 2003 And the winner is... Kelly Flanigan - <b>Olympus OM-2n w/ 50/1.4 Zuiko lens.</b> <br> (And, since the initial post my girlfriend is now my wife :-) As the rings on the photo below may show :-)) <br> Wonderful camera and I must admit..that I am now considering getting one for myself... <br><br><br> <center> <i> Final Hasselblad snapshot of the 'Happy Couple'</i> </center> <br> <hr width=300><blockquote> <br> <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display? photo_id=1544439&size=lg"> </center><br><br> </blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_feist Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Congratulations! I guess that was the right camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Well done! (I thought I'd give my <i>slightly</i> biased support of all things Olympus - it's good to see that people can still consider them as a worthwhile camera, even though they are 'extinct' now). I hope that she's enjoying her camera, although I would have recommended an OM-1 (or OM-1N) for her if she's new to photography: even with the OM-2N, it's too easy just to shoot on aperture priority auto all the time (my apologies if she's shooting on manual - I would be very impressed if that were the case!). <p> By the way, no offense intended to those who <i>do</i> shoot on aperture priority auto, I just think that it's useful for newcomers to learn what they are actually doing when they take pictures - this is most quickly achieved by shooting on manual, IMHO. <p> Anyway, enough preaching from me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted June 8, 2003 Author Share Posted June 8, 2003 Neil, yes Olympus made some truly remarkable cameras. I myself picked up a near mint Olympus 35SP RF camera some time ago and am constantly amazed at how accurate the spot meter is and how sharp the lens is. <br> <br> Well, she does shoot on aperture priority but has an understanding of what different shutterspeeds means in terms of camera shake vs focal length used, motion blur/freeze and how the shutterspeed-aperture-film speed triange works when it comes to exposure control. <br><br> It's truly a wonderful little camera. Next purchase will be something longer focal length wise. 135mm Zuiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted June 9, 2003 Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Richard, <p> I won't comment on the quality of Olympus cameras and lenses as I love them too much and just can't give an objective opinion! Anyway, it's good that she's taking an interest in photography by using a camera that is not <i>fully</i> automatic. <p> However, I would say to her that I find shooting in manual mode actually <i>easier</i> than using auto! Now, before everyone jumps in to dispute this remark as utter rubbish, I want to say that you never have to worry about exposure compensation when in manual mode. I have a few OM-2N's, and OM-4T and an OM-1N: I only prefer auto mode when shooting flash - Olympus does has a nice system with OFT-TTL (off-the-film through-the-lens) exposure when on auto mode with flash - but if I'm shooting during the day, I'm just as happy with my OM-1N as with <i>any</i> of the others. <p> For instance - this is meant for your wife now as a beginner, no patronisation of professional photographers (or of your wife, for that matter) intended - if I want to take a portrait outdoors, I find some green grass that is lit in the same way as the intended subject (ie. shady grass for a person in shade, sunny grass for a person in direct sunlight), set the exposure using this grass (while choosing the desired f-stop/shutter speed combination available for that exposure), and then just focus and take the photo. There is almost always green grass around to approximate 18% reflectance for the light meter, and I find that setting the exposure ahead of time allows me to relax and concentrate on the focus and composition. It really doesn't matter then what shirt the subject is wearing (a white or black shirt may throw off the meter, unless you use spot metering, but the OM-2N doesn't feature this). I find that with my method, I just don't <i>need</i> spot metering! Of course, you can simulate the above method with an exposure lock button, but again this is not available on the OM-2N. <p> Anyway, believe it or not, the above was intended as an explanation of my previously-expressed opinions. If your wife (sorry, did you mention her name anywhere? I looked but didn't find it) also wishes to adopt it as a method to use, then she has my blessing - let me know what she thinks (if she prefers her present method, that's OK too). However, it's not my intention to force her into anything that she doesn't want to do ;-) <p> Who was it that said that they never buy new gear anymore as the old equipment is fine for them? I'm sort of that opinion too as I feel that my photography just doesn't need spot metering, etc. etc. (I know, I have it on my OM-4T, but I never use it - I keep that body for other reasons). <p> Oops, this wasn't meant to be a lecture, and I hope it didn't sound whiny or negative. Back to reality: I think a 135mm lens would be great! I have the 135/2.8 Zuiko, it's a nice lens: compact, bright, and gives good shallow DOF for those portrait shots. I think that you can pick them up on *bay for fairly reasonable prices. Myself, I got heavily into wide- and ultrawide- angle photography, and you can really spend money on this end of the Zuiko spectrum! <p> OK, sorry for droning on - I'll let someone else have a go now, maybe they'll shoot down all my opinionated opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted June 9, 2003 Author Share Posted June 9, 2003 Neil, interesting technique you described. I'll tell her (Terri, by the way) :-) <br> <br> I agree about the love for older things in the camera world. I myself threw away my auto-focus 35mm Canon and got a Hasselblad 500c/m and the Olympus 35SP (which by the way is older than the OM-2n but still have spot-metering ;-)). <br> <br> By the way...with the camera came a very compact Olympus T20 flash and shoe type 4. The TTL OTF functionality seems very impressive for 'a camera of that age'. <br> <br> Would anyone know if there is a manual for this flash available for download anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted June 9, 2003 Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Richard,<p>You can find a .pdf file of the T20 manual <a href=http://olympus.dementia.org/eSIF/om-sif/flashphotogroup/manuals/t20.pdf><b>here</b></a>. Actually, this entire <a href=http://olympus.dementia.org/eSIF/om-sif.htm><b>site</b></a> is truly amazing, with just about everything you could possibly want to know about Olympus OM gear, but were too afraid to ask!<p>I hope this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted June 9, 2003 Share Posted June 9, 2003 Oops! <p> I forgot to add the following to my previous post: <p> Let me know how Terri goes, and what she thinks of my suggested method using manual exposure. Don't worry, I <i>can</i> take rejection, so if she still prefers to use auto, that's OK! :-) <p> However, if I <i>do</i> get another convert, I'd love to hear about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_pribec Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 my opinion on apeture prioroty auto: i hate it. my camera is fully auto at f8/f16 and i usually manage to nock it down from there because of the way i hold it and end up getting overexposures. manual for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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