robert_landrigan Posted May 30, 2000 Share Posted May 30, 2000 In looking for a cheap panoramic insert for my equally cheap Kiev 60, I've been experimenting with "reloading" 120 backings with 35mm film. My results, although a bit different with each roll(sometimes the film shifts a bit on the backing, so not all the images end up perfectly level) have been pretty cool, all the same. Was wondering if anyone else out there has tried this, and what results you've seen. Personally, I like the fact that the film is exposed all the way out, so you get the sprocket holes as part of the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_moore Posted May 30, 2000 Share Posted May 30, 2000 Here is article on this very subject: <a href="http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-lubitel.html">UNDERCOVER35</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ward1 Posted May 30, 2000 Share Posted May 30, 2000 Robert, I've been shooting full film 35mm in my Mamiya 7 by using the 35mm adaptor, but not putting the mask in. Check out a photo on the link below. http://www.amherst.edu/~fmward/menu.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin_argast2 Posted May 26, 2001 Share Posted May 26, 2001 'Cheap' actually means ' low quality'. I think what you mean is ' inexpensive'. A Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost would not be 'cheap', even if you paid a dollar for a raffle ticket and won the car in the raffle...which would be very inexpensive. A Ford Pinto would always be 'cheap'-low quality-even if you paid $40,000,000.00 for it. Inexpensive need not be complicated, or low quality. You want low cost panoramic views? Forget 35mm, and forget Kiev...which is usually quite 'cheap'. Get a quality made medium format camera-a Yashica Mat 124, or Mamiya C-3, or such-used, and take good pictures with it,and then crop the finished print to panoramic format. The 6x6cm negatives will be as wide as, or wider than, most panoramic 35mm negs...which are usually 1.5X the width of a regular 35mm negative. The 35mm negative measures 24x36mm. About 6mm of that is cropped off during printing, so the effective width of a 35mm negative is 30mm. The actual width of 35mm negatives, 36mm width X 1.5 = 54mm. The effective width of 35mm, 30mm X 1.5 = 45mm. The effective width of a 6x6cm negative is 56mm. The square format negative already gives you a bit more than a panoramic 35mm camera would give. It just doesn't seem panoramic, because of the extra height, as well as the extra width. When you take a 6x6 shot, and print it, trim some of the height, and Voila!...a panoramic which will beat anything even a Hasselblad 35mm Panoramic camera will produce. Your big mistake was playing Russian Roulette, by using a Kiev. Some Kiev gear is quite good, and some is quite lousy. You never know whether you'll get a peach, or a lemon, when buying Kiev...which is why I don't. If you want high quality panoramics, do as I have suggested. If you just want to play around with different ways of doing things, continue as you have done...and get more disappointing images than satisfactory ones. I've never tried what you have, because it would seem a waste of my time, but if you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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