nicholas_wybolt Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 For most of the past year, I've been shooting with my M6 or digital / film point-and-shoots. Yesterday I pulled out my SLR in order to shoot my daughter's rugby game using longer lenses. On the first photo I thought the camera was broken because of the viewfinder blackout when the mirror flipped up. It took a few frames to get used to this "feature." Then I took the same camera to an awards event in the evening in order to finish off the film. People kept turning around and looking at me after each shot until I realized how noisey the motor drive was. My daughter asked why I wasn't using my "quiet camera." -Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger c Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 My other camera is a Bronica ETRSi. When you take a picture the viewfinder blacks out...and stays that way. There's a satifying "finality" to taking a photo with the Bronny, as if it's saying, "OK, that's your shot, hope you were happy with it because you're not getting another". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 The viewfinder does black out on m EOS 1V's and Nikon F's--for a fraction of a second--but I've rarely been as surprised with what unexpectly turned up in the shot nearly as many times as with the Leica, if I don't stop and carefully consider how much more than the framelines show will actually be on film. Everything has an advantage and a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_rab Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Blackout is not really a big deal to me either. The only time I really care or notice is when I am using a flash, especially as the batteries get low. "Did the flash go off?" Never can tell with the SLR. Of course, I rarely use the flash on my Hexar, so what do I know. Different tools, different jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Of course, if you use a TLR you get reflex focussing and viewing, no blackout and near silent operation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger c Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 And even more parallax error than a Leica ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I've been using my R6.2 lately (after resting it for a year). I agree with Jay here, it's nice for a change to be able to see the DOF and what's actually in the frame! Yes, the camera is louder than an M, but doing some candids last night I found that people barely noticed (or cared)! The damped "ker-thunk" sound is oddly satisfying too - not the wimpy little "click" of the M. :?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_fang Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Troll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_fang Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 <i>"Did the flash go off?" Never can tell with the SLR.</i> <p>The simple trick I use is to just keep both eyes open at the moment of the shot. This might not work if you have a really small face or a really huge SLR, but it works fine for me, and it wasn't too hard to figure out either. This rangefinder vs. SLR masturbation gets really ridiculous at times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Most Hasselblads 'black-out' until you crank the film advance. Garbage, right? Don't know how anyone ever made a significant image with one of those. Yah, great. Leicas are quiet. Still, though, not the quietest. Leicas are good for a few things. But, strangely, you didn't complain about the Leica not being usable with long lenses. Or macro. Or action.... Why do we keep doing this? Use a hammer when you need a hammer, and a wrench when you need a wrench. And, don't complain that the wrench sucks for driving nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_wybolt Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 Acutally, I wasn't complaining about anything; my apologies if the post came across that way. More of making an observation about getting in a rangefinder / viewfinder habit and then going back to an SLR. It was just a goofy experience. -Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 You know, Nick, just wind your film manually with a manual focus SLR and there'd be a lot less noise. If that's still not quiet enough, you can always get a Contaflex/Bessamatic/Ultramatic or whatever with a leaf shutter. Doing daylight fill-flash is much easier too. If you MUST HAVE AF, just use a digital. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feli Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Nicholas, I know what you mean. I used to shoot with a Minolta SLR. Then I shot for 2-3 years straight with just Leica M and LTM. About six months ago I decided that I needed an SLR again and added a R6.2 to my arsenal. The first time I took the R out, the black out and noise caught me by surprise. I had completely forgotten what it was like. Different tools for different jobs. cheers, feli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_wybolt Posted May 10, 2003 Author Share Posted May 10, 2003 Feli, You hit the nail on the head, as it were. That's exactly how I felt the first time that I released the shutter. -Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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