henry_suryo Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hello, I am working on a book project, and would love to hear from friends on the forum who have published their work. It will be a coffee-table grade photography monograph and I'm interested to hear anything from how to find the right publisher, pricing the printing, self publishing, laying out the format and choosing the stock, cover, slipcases, etc, to post printing sales and marketing. What is the general criteria for publishers to undertake your project? What is the typical production run, i.e number of copies, softbound vs hardcover deluxe edition? How does the printing fee relate to the final price/profit? Thank you in advance, Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller1 Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hello Henry, Congratulations on your endeavor. While I am also engaged in a project and do not yet have all of the details worked out, there is an excellent article in PhotoVision Magazine (May-June issue) entitled "Small is Better". It will give you the view of several publishers. Additionally, Michael Smith and Paula Chamlee own and operate the publishing arm of their collective enterprise. Their publishing endeavor is named Lodima Press. I have spoken with Michael in the past and he and Paula will involve themselves to the degree that the photographer wishes and needs their guidance. Their services run the gamut of advising the photographer on the various aspects, locating and arranging financing, locating and working with a publisher, printer, binder etc. They have self published for a number of years and their work is very good, in my estimation. I hope that this affords you some guidance. Good luck, once again. Regards, Donald Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_driscoll2 Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 your best bet-this not from someone who published there own book but worked on two commisioned books- is to hook up with a book packager. they will shop your book around the various publishers and will also help you with the above mentioned choices. they work like a photo rep does- they get a commision on your sale. self-publishing is also an option-you can call all the major book chains and talk with their buyers, also do research and relize before you talk to anyone what your market is, and how your going to hit them. if you go the self-publish route, you might want to hook up with a graphic designer. trying to learn everything yourself will be more than a little daunting, and you need someone who knows how to talk to a printer and not waste time on something that will not even show up on press. the general criteria for a publisher to take on your project- IT MUST MAKE MONEY. its a sad world, but if they can't turn a profit, they won't print it. some publishers will help you if they are not interested by steering you to others that are. find other books that are similar to yours (the key word is similar) and start writing emails, and calling. publishers want to see a sample "chapter" a table of contents, etc. sometimes they want you to come in a pitch. you kinda have to play salesman. thats capitalism!!! that is my we so many terrible books, great salesman-poor idea men. i wish you much luck, nothing is impossible. just keep pushing away. be prepared, publishers like art and creative directors want it short and sweet when it comes to showing your work. advice from mine and several others who have been down this road- don't bother sending matted 16x20 prints in a portfolio case. they don't appreciate it like other photographers and galleries do, and they want to be able to look at it on there desk, and drop it back in a fed ex box when they are done. printed pages with layout, are what publishers want to see-but don't lock yourself into something. publishers want to be able to tell you what to do to some degree. if you don't want that-its time to self publish. thanksjdjdjdjdjdjd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_rowell Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hi Henry, Check out this site. http://www.photoprojects.org/edfxs/inadv/curr_yr/curr_mo/inadv_p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_a._smith1 Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 I thiank Don for the mention. Paula and I act as consultants to photographers wanting to get books published--either by doing it themselves or by other publishers. What experience do we have? We have published 6 of our own books (4 more on the way); we published a book by Richard Copeland Miller, which last year won a design and packaging award. We are publishing a book by an Australian photographer, a big book of the photographs of Edward Weston (100 full-size plates in 600-line screen 5 color and quadtone), and a series of 16-18 Brett Weston books. And that is just what is current for this year and next. There are more books in the works. We can easily answer all of the questions you have. Michael A. Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnorman2 Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 henry - i have published 3 books, and am currently designing the 4th. i cant think of too many things that are more fun and rewarding than producing a book. for my past two books, i have been in charge of all production decisions regarding paper stock, layout, image reproduction, etc. there is an enormous amount of info to get on top of to ensure you get the best publication for your budget. standard these days are 100# dull-coat stock, spot-varnished duo- or tritone images at 300-line screen or better. micheal's comment about 600-line screen indicates that he is trying to produce a state-of-the-art book. anyway, if you have some specific questions about any aspect of publishing, from contract negotiations and project budget development to book design, calendaring to end papers, or ink choice to font selection, please email me offline at jnorman34@attbi.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_suryo Posted May 11, 2003 Author Share Posted May 11, 2003 Thank you all for your response. There's a lot of work to do still before I really get to the publishing phase as I'm still working on the photographs and the writings. Michael and Jnorman, I would like to get in touch with you sometime, perhaps as I do more more research along the way. I really appreciate your extended courtesy. Sincerely, Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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