mark_jones8 Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 I've placed an order for the Canon D10 - now the next question (in addition to one on memory..another posting) is what's the best all- around, all-purpose lens that I should purchase to use with the Canon D10. I'm looking for the lens that I'll use roughly 75% of the time, that would have wide zoom to telephoto (ideally). I would use this lense for everything from vacations to family to landscapes, etc. I know there have been postings around secondary lenses - but this will be for the primary. While I'm not adverse to spending money to get the right lens - I do need to consider cost (i.e. up to $500 for a truly versatile lens would be fine) - and I certainly don't want to go cheap. I've been told the Canon 24-85m f/3.5-4.5 USM EF Lens would be a good option - but I would prefer hearing from people here. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tennyson Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Well, I have both, and that is my standard, go everywhere with me, set up. I would love it if they made a say... 20-85, but thats just wishful thinking and im not even sure it would be technicaly possible.. but anyways.. Yea, the 24-84 is a very sharp lens, quick at AF, and reasonably fast at f3.5-4.5 The 27-70 f2.8L would be a great lens, but two drawbacks... price obviously.. and its heavy.. the 10D is already a bit of a weight increase from my old D30... so I don't know that I would even want to deal with the extra weight of this lens... lightness has a lot going for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 The 24-85 is nice on a film body, but just having a 38mm effective field of view as my widest lens doesn't work. I use the 20-35 USM as my "standard" zoom, and its effective field of view equal to 32mm - 56mm is not really wide enough, but I'm making do for now. Some of the Sigma options (15-30 or 17-35) may be attractive. Match any of these lenses up with the 50 f1.8 and 70-200, and you have a reasonably flexible kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_berthe Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Hi Mark Here is MY pick: I have the old Canon 28-70 3.5-4.5 II. It is not USM and the front end rotates as it focuses. The reasons why I am going to use this lens are: 1. very very sharp lens 2. There is no opening at the back of the lens. Most rear/internal focus lenses have the last element that pumps in and out of the lens body, therefore pushing/pumping air (DUST) in the camera body. I also have the Canon 24-85 3.5-4.5 USM and I will keep it on my ElanII. I love this lens but the rear element is very mobile and the front extends with two sleeves. I had this lens for only a few years and I can see quite a bit of dust inside. The old 28-70 is still free of any dust inside! None whatsoever! Even if I don�t jump to the DSLR this year, I will keep this old 28-70 lens until I get my DSLR. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_wilcox Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 How about a plain old 35mm f/2 prime lens? That essentially becomes roughly a 55mm standard lens. There's a lot to be said for going simple. Also... the 28mm prime would be in the 40ish mm range. If I had a D10 in my hands and no lenses... I would probably buy either the 35 or the 28 and a 50/1.8 -- all with 52mm filters. Start clean and simple and enjoy the megapixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canon man Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I would second the vote for the primes. They're also mega sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey1 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Since you're prepared to spend $1600 on a camera body, I would assume that you don't wish to waste that expenditure but putting a slow zoom on the front. I think your choices could be: 16-35 2.8L (25.6-56 2.8L equivalent) 24-70 2.8L (38-112 2.8 equivalent) neither of these is perfect: the former doesn't quite go long enough, the latter not quite wide enough. I'd personally would prefer the 16-35, as the 25mm-38mm range is much more useful to me than the short telephoto range 56-112: but then it all depends what you shoot most: if, say, you want to do a lot of head-and-shoulder portraiture of your kids, then your mileage may vary. Alternatively, put a 35 f2 (56 equiv), 28 f1.8 (45mm equiv), 24 f1.4 (38.4mm equiv), of 20 f2.8 (30mm equiv) on it and just shoot away, if you want a minimalist prime experience. Again, I'd go for the 20 2.8, because I'm a wide angle kinda guy, but YMMV. You could always add a 50mm f1.8 for $80: with your machine it would make a pretty good 80mm equivalent portrait lens. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_p._schorsch Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Dear mark,If you want to be a "one lens" man buy the 24-70 2.8 L.If you plan to supplement your system later, get a 16-35 2.8 L. If you buy the 16-35 you can supplement it later with a 50mm normal lens and a 100 macro. With digital, one can change the ISO settings easily and one can get good results useing the 400 ISO setting, therefore, for a one lens system you might be able to get by with the new 17-40 mm. It is cheaper than the 24-70 and would be the equivalent to a 28 - 64mm on your camera, which is a nice range. Decisions, decisions!! Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_lanterman1 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I messed around with several inexpensive zoom lenses at various ranges over the last two years and have found myself less than happy with them. I sold them at a loss (naturally) and bought better quality. My final set of lenses are the 16-35, 24-70, 35-350, 100-400 and a 50mm1.4. Unless I am going to an airplane show the lens that lives on my 1D is the 24- 70. The other lenses are fine products and have definite uses (otherwise why buy them :-) but the 24-70 is great. Due to physical handicap restrictions the use of primes is not the best option for myself but should be really considered as a better choice. There is less compromise to sharpness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohan Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I have been researching this too. From what I read on the wide angle side (the area I am looking to supplement) there is: Canon 16-35mm f2.8 L - The one to buy if you have the money. Canon 17-40mm f4 L - Canon quality at a cheaper price. Sigma 15-30mm f3.5-4.5 - Cheap and gives you a wider angle, however I have heard that buyers should beware of lenses that make it out of poor quality control that have bad lens flare and blurry tendencies. If you find a good one, I hear they are notably sharp with low flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_jones8 Posted March 22, 2003 Author Share Posted March 22, 2003 Ok folks - thanks sooo much for the response so far. I can't afford the "L" series, so that's out.. here's what I'm thinking.. please provide your feedback - it's much appreciated! I'm looking for a lenses for the D10, which has the 1.6 multiplier... 1. 28mm f/2.8 OR 35mm f/2 (which would be better as a prime, something that is 44.8(the 28) or 56(the 35)? Or I'm considering instead of one of the above to go with a zoom (but my concern here would be sharpness and f/ ... 2. 20-35mm f/3.5-4.5 USM OR 22-55mm f/4-5.6 USM OR 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 USM OR 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 II Finally, I could always buy one of the fixed primes and then go for one of the less expensive zooms (either the 22-55, 24-85, 28-105). Finally, finally, the 50mm f/1.8 II SEEMS to be one that is recommended by folks, at $70, should I just go ahead and get it? (it would then me a shorter telephoto at 80mm)?? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissa_eiselein Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 I'm in the same position as you, Mark. I have enough money set aside to buy the 10D, but not enough for a cache of lenses to go with it. <p>For us to get a semi wide angle equivalent to a 28mm on film, we'll need to plunk down a stash of cash. <p>Your best bet on a budget will probably be the 28-105 (10D equivalent is 45-168) and then get a 20mm (32mm) for those times when you need something a little wider. From there, you can start saving a few dollars as you shoot and decide if you need more width or more zoom. <p>I'm looking forward to the added focal length as I often find myself wishing I had more zoom. Rarely, when using my 28-135 IS do I find myself needing something wider. However, I suspect that will change after I get my 10D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_reyes Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 You may wish to try a Tokina 28-70 Pro II. I have one on my Elan IIE and it works great for film. Got it for less than $450. Photozone results were within half a point of Canon L lens when I purchased. When I purchase a D10 this summer, i plan to add a 70-200 2.8L for youth soccer pictures. It will replace the 100-300 USM which we use on the Elan II. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc1 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 my vote is for the 17-40 L ,,pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc1 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 next, 50 F1.8 Mk 1 or 11, last but not least,,70-200 F4 L, 1.4x TC,and you're set for "almost" any event.. pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc1 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 oh so sorry, also 550 EX flashgun,and don't 4get to buy a big storage CF card or digi wallet,then you're really set,oh a real stable tripod,, guess i've been watching too much of this on going war in iraq,,am beginning to 4get essential stuff,,lots o luck,,enjoy your new equipment,,pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Which focal lengths do you currently use ? Divide by 1.6 and you have the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erick_kyogoku Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Hi Mark, It seems we all share the same problem: wanting the wide angle, but not having the money for a sharp wide angle lens that suits the D10. Actually, according to your needs/budget, it seems as though the 24-85 would be good. I also recommend the 28-135 Image Stabilizing lens. I have both lenses, and am in fact considering selling my 24-85 since I use the 28-135 most of the time. (If you're interested, it's in great condition with a new B-W MC UV filter. I bought it in Tokyo and it's a beautiful champagne-and-black color; matches perfectly with my Elan IIe but I imagine it'll go nicely with a D10) I think I'd be well served with something in the 28-135 range and something super-wide for the 1.6 multiplier (uggggh, I hate that multiplier effect). I usually shoot primes: 28, 50, and 85mm (in order of diminishing use) so my zooms aren't used as often. Might be time to pick up a prime in the ~17mm length. For general use, the 24-85 or 28-135 are good. If you need a 24-28 35mm equivalent, you may need another lens. The 50mm $80 lens I have, and I've taken some of my best shots with it. Focusing is slow, but it's a sharp and fast lens. (f/1.8) Good luck! - Erick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubert_sammons1 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 I just got my D10 4 days ago.I started with and still love my Elan 7. I have the 50mm f.8 , 22-55, 28-105 and recently 100-400L IS. I would rather start out with only one sharp lens like the 50mm f1.8 If I was on a budget. I have had fun with the 50mm.......something that cost $60-70 bucks but is really sharp. I have also taken some neat close ups with it. Hugh Sammons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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