mukul_dube Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 My small Leitz ball head, which is named FOOMI or 14105, is jammed. Nothing moves. It has not been used for a couple of years and has sat on the dining table all along. Attached is a photo (found on the Net) which shows a unit identical to the one I have. Any ideas on getting it free? All I can think of is acetone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 WD40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 These are all metal - WD 40 or another penetrating oil should do the trick. Gentle tapping will help move the liquid into the joint. I have a similar, but I suspect newer version which lacks what appears to be a screw head opposite the locking handle - you might try (gently) to remove that if possible to get more lubricant / solvent in. Great little heads - good luck with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Before acetone I'd try in the following order: propyl alcohol, lighter fluid (naptha). If neither work I'd try acetone and if that doesn't work I'd try WD40. One of the above should do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_mcculloch2 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yep, agree with all the preceding advice. If all else fails (and I've done this a couple of times), just take it your local GP and have them hit it with some nitrogen. They have supplies (at least here, and yours should) for 'burning off' keratoses, early stage BCC's, blah, blah. If you've been in the sun, you know the routine. It's worked for me with frozen battery covers, locked screws, etc. Or you can get some liquid nitrogen from a motor parts supplier. It's an idea - as said, if all else fails, try it. By the way, all else said, it's an elegant piece. Arthur (apiarist1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Arthur reminded me of another idea I've periodically tried...using an electric hair dryer aiming the heat to expand the exterior of pieces joined together...soetimes it works, sometimes not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_bowring Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Personally I think that I would avoid using WD40. It is not really a lubricant and can leave a sticky mess. Get some real "penetrating oil" and use it sparingly. A few drops and let it sit overnight. I have used it successfully on several old tripods that were stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Thank you, all. I shall try those which I can try. I do not know if WD40 is to be had in India. I have no hair dryer. The biggest problem is that I can no longer go about to look for things like liquid nitrogen. Sandy, I did remove the screw on the other side from the locking control; but I couldn't see where it led. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Instead of a hair dryer you could use a lens and solar power....just be careful as it can get hot very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I just cringe when I hear WD-40 or any rust inhibitor/cleaner witches' brew being suggested. However, since FOOM was brought up, some may be interested in the old telegraph codes (Bestellwörter) used by Leitz: Bestellwörter – Leica Wiki (deutsch) My personal favorite is NOOKY, of which I have several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_a._junker1 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Or NOOKY-HESUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 I found that WD-40 is now made in India, presumably under licence. This means that I have something in addition to acetone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Some greases turn into near epoxy over the years. Heat will free them and not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_a._junker1 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The ball and socket may have galled together. Try placing it in a freezer for 24 hours, then take it out and carefully pour boiling water on just the socket. Wearing gloves you may be able to get it to release. I can't recommend WD 40, but there is a solvent used by the aircraft industry called "Kroil" that is a superior penetrating solvent used to take apart frozen components. It takes time with soaking and vibrations, but it does work. Smithsonian NASM uses it for restoration projects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thank you, Conrad and Christopher. I should be able to get someone to do the heating. If that does not work, I can manage the freezing and the boiling water. I shall search for Kroil but in all probability shall not find it in my country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bryant Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I don't know about international shipping but I just did a google search for kroil oil and two US sporting goods mail order stores sell it for gun cleaning. They are Midway and Brownells. Other firms also list it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Thank you. I shall keep that as my last alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_mcculloch2 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Thank you. I shall keep that as my last alternative. mukul_dube, as an aside, where in India are you? What's the weather like there? Good luck with your efforts on the FOOMI. My partner and I have been to India (now three times; the second time was disastrous, with my rescue by the Ram Mohan Lohia Memorial Hospital in Dehli a Godsend). Good luck with the repair. Look forward to photos of its use. Regards, Arthur (apiarist1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Arthur, I have been in Delhi since I came here in 1970 to earn a master's degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_mcculloch2 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Arthur, I have been in Delhi since I came here in 1970 to earn a master's degree. Thank you mukul_dube. I intrude. I suspect, though could be disabused, that you have a story to tell, and of course, like many stories, they may not be told. Masters?. What was your area? I will look forward to your photos. I've attended to your posts. Impressed. My spouse, and I, and her 45 year old disabled son (he has a significant cognitive disability) go to Canberra in the next week for my graduation 'ceremony'. LOL, a post grad degree in theology. I have asked people to refer to me as 'your eminence', knowing that it taints, implicates, me in the tragic story of church abuse. There you go. Keep safe. As a throwaway, an image, which I'm sure I've posted before, a real person, where I live. Again, keep safe. Hail an well met, mukul_dube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Your Eminence, what did the subject of your photo think of it? I'm assuming he saw it. To all others: WD-40 and a bit of muscle fixed the ball head. To be honest, as my hands now have little gripping strength. I used a pair of pliers on the locking key/control/handle -- with a small piece cut from the discarded tube of a bicycle tyre. The FOOMI now works well and is unmarked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_mcculloch2 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Yes, he liked it. I wander the streets of my small, rural hinterland hamlet, and photograph - usually with my monochrom and go to lens, a 75mm voigtlander, though sometimes with another rangefinder and FP4. Usually a bessa, sometimes one of my favourites, a retina IIc, and I've just had CLA'd a Canon 7 I bought on eprey which I'm going to use over the next few days. The deal with all those who give me permission to photograph them is that I get them a 5x7 print (done at a nearby K-mart - something like Wal-mart - for a pittance, I think about 8 - 12 cents). I am glad FOOMI now works and is unmarked. Bravo and regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_a._junker1 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Glad it worked out for you with no damage. I've read that WD 40 is essentially refined kerosene, and not a lubricant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 A remarkable product - have used many on the first list. Link 34 Brilliant Ways to Use WD-40 at Home The next, a bit too exciting for my taste! Link How To Fix a Tire With a Blast of Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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