pedro_sincleir Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 People, I would like to know if someone has a statistic page/data about Nikon F5 speed (with 28-70mm AF-S lens) VS Canon eos 1V (with 28-70mm f/2.8 L USM or 24-70mm f/2.8mm L USM) my main question is: what combination camera+lens focus faster (I REALLY need fast focus) thanks a lot :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddert Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 what type of subjects are you shooting - i.e. do you need fast focus for single frames or good predictive autofocus for things like moving cars/animals/people, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whayne_padden Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Well I can't answer about the F5, but the 1V is very fast at AF and I doubt you could do much better. The faster the glass the better the AF performance, as with f/2.8 glass you activate all 7 cross type AF sensors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro_sincleir Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 Good question Matthew Guess it's both still OR moving... I need to photograph some riots (maybe a lot of people running... maybe I just take some stills and need AIServo autofocus.... thank you =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 As long as there is something in the subject to lock focus on, either camera will work. (Sample shot attached, using a Nikon F5 and a 'slow' AF 300mm f4 Nikkor lens. Faster than a speeding football player, slower than the electric power outage of 13 August 2003.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 As long as there is something in the subject to lock focus on, either camera will work. Photo attached is not there! Ooooops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efusco Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Gerald is right...the 'riot' you specify will not be a task, even in dim light, for either AF system. The way you put the question made it seem like it would be something difficult (butterflies in the dark or something). --evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 I can't speak for the focal length in question but using a 300mm f/2.8 AFS II the F5 is marginally (and I mean just a very tiny fraction of a split second) faster. A couple of years I staged a shoot for a magazine cover where a group of models doing 100 yard dashes came directly at me while I focused on the guy at the head of the pack. I shot eight rolls (eight 100 yard sprints) and at full motordrive speed and f/2.8 & f/4 only one frame out of 288 was out of focus and that was because I bumped the auto focus sensor switch -- and in that frame the #2 runner was in sharp focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 You might also wish to consider shutter lag. The lag time varies with the EOS-1v (55ms to 191ms) The F100 is listed as 51ms and 51ms. The F5 as 40ms and "--"<br><br>Here is the link...<br><br><ahref="http://www.lightningtrigger.com/CameraCompatibility6/CameraCompatibility6.htm"target="_new"><u>http://www.lightningtrigger.com/CameraCompatibility6/CameraCompatibility6.htm</u></a><br><br>I dont know if this is a factor you should consider or not. I dont like the idea of inconsistent lag times within the same camera. I think ones reflexes adjust between different cameras, e.g. TLR Rollie and say FE2 w/ MD-12 but I doubt this within one camera. Again I dont know if this is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nir_domany Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 try Leica M (dosn't matter which). Fastest focus, no shutter lag.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddert Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 both should work fine. the eos system as a whole focuses faster than the nikon one (due to USM in almost all lenses), but those nikon ones with AFS and VR are the same good. So, if you are only considering high end Nikon and Canon lenses (such as those you mentioned) then there is little difference. If you are considering getting "cheaper" lenses - not necessarily bad ones - like the 50/1.4 or what not, then the canon may be a better choice. I can operate an EOS camera way faster than a Nikon - but that's me and others are different. A riot isn't all that demanding. Shooting cars moving at 150 miles and hour is, or fast moving macro subjects. But with a 28-70 your depth of field can be pretty large and either system will do fine. Choose the ones that feels better ergonomically and fits your way of thinking more accurately... and this will likely make up the difference in theoretical ability since you personally will react more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_k1664875007 Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Definitely a Leica for riot photography. Not for the lenses, or AF, but simply for size and being less prominent. Ask yourself, your standing in the middle of the riot taking pictures. What do the hooligans thinks: a guy with a big camera taking pictures, is this a cop who takes pictures of us for later identification? Let's go get him. What does the riotpolice think: a guy with a big camera taking pictures, is this a hooligan who takes pictures of us for later negative publicity? Let's go get him. And the hooligans who simply come to kick a row: a guy with a big camera taking pictures, wonder how much that camera is going to make? Lets get that camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro_sincleir Posted August 17, 2003 Author Share Posted August 17, 2003 Thanks for all the answers! Paul K. very good point! not a Leica but maybe a nikon fm3a with 2,3 lens... I'll take a look at some manual focus cameras, thank you very much people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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