Sony Announces NEW Alpha DSLR LCD Protectors! ;-)

[peterblaise]

<p>From:</br>

<p></br>

<p><b>LCD Protectors</b></br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/accessories.html</br>

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<p></br>

<p><b>LCD Protect Cover</b> </br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh1am.jpg</br>

<p>PCK-LH4AM for α900 / PCK-LH1AM for α700 / PCK-LH2AM for α350/300/200</br>

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<p><b>LCD Protect Cover </b></br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh5am.jpg</br>

<p>PCK-LH5AM for α380/330/230</br>

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<p><b>LCD Protect Sheet </b></br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls1am.jpg</br>

<p>PCK-LS4AM for α900 / PCK-LS1AM for α700 / PCK-LS2AM for α350/300/200</br>

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<p></br>

<p><b>LCD Protect Sheet</b></br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls5am.jpg</br>

<p>PCK-LS5AM for α380/330 / PCK-LS6AM for α230</br>

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<p><b>LCD Hood</b></br>

<p>http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/sh-l1am.jpg</br>

<p>SH-L1AM for α380/330/230</br>

<p></br>

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<p>Ahhh ... Sony is well on the way to making up for loosing 1 billion US dollars last year -- just you watch!</br>

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<p>=8^o</br>

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<p>(LOOK at that HOOD -- NICE!)</br>

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<p>.</br>

[phule]

<p>But where are the LCD protector protectors?</p>

 

[peterblaise]

<p>.<br>

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Earlier: "<i>... where are the LCD protector protectors? ...</i>"<br>

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... uhhh, leave 'em in the plastic blister packaging? ;-) <br>

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Anyway, I think my point is that the <br>

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<b>2009 Sony Alpha DSLR-Plus-30-series Alpha Mount Cameras </b> <br>

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... really SHOULD be called the: <br>

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<b>2009 Sony Alpha Cyber-shot DSLR-Plus-30-series Alpha Mount Cameras </b> <br>

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... since they loose many of the control features and benefits of DSLRs to have a user interface that "looks" simpler like the Sony Cyber-shot compact cameras. <br>

<br>

But, without the sophisticated lenses with extreme macro and telephoto from the Cyber-shot cameras, the sorry purchasers of the Plus-30-series Alpha Mount Cameras will be quite angry once they realize how little they've got, features and benefits wise, and then also how little control they have after all -- neither a compact nor an SLR. <br>

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Ouch! <br>

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Start the countdown to 2 billion lost -- a reverse McDonalds, I suppose! <br>

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[phule]

<p>But what will Sony sell us to protect the blister packs from damage? Why haven't they come up with the ultimate solution?</p>

<p>[[will be quite angry once they realize how little they've got, features and benefits wise, and then also how little control they have after all -- neither a compact nor an SLR.]]</p>

<p>They will never know any such thing. People buying these cameras never took their point and shoots off auto mode and they won't take their DSLR off auto either.</p>

<p>Loose rhymes with goose.</p>

 

[ricardovaste]

<p>I agree with Rob - these new cameras look ideal for the people they are aimed at. Stylish and easy to use. I wouldn't be so quick to bash Sony, Peter, otherwise they might go down the drain like Minolta and then we'll be hearing about how wonderful Sony were, from you, after Samsung buys the mount ;-).</p>

<p>They're nice, but don't really interest me. I'm looking foward to seeing how the next A700 level (or there abouts) camera turns out.</p>

[steve_c.5]

<p>The Sony product page won't let you click on the individual items. No links.</p>

<p>I've chronicled my woes in the past with the flimsy A700 LCD screen and how expensive it was to get the LCD replaced, so they're cheap insurance.</p>

[peterblaise]

<p>.</p>

<p>Yes, Steve, I remember your A700 anguish, and how Sony has no squish zone except the LCD itself! I'd think a custom-cut bullet-proof Plexiglas/Lexan cover might protect that mini-Trinitron (yet, I can get 27" Sony Trinitron TV for 1/3rd the price of the A700 3" LCD, by the way -- ARGH!). At least you have part numbers.</p>

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<p>We've already had compact camera shooters here in threads at Sony/Minolta photo.net wonder why their "step up" to a DSLR couldn't macro or telephoto as well as their cheaper compact. DSLRs are frustrating enough, but we're the ones people will come to for help, to confirm what's wrong, once they realize:</p>

<ul>

<li>(a) they spent way too much for scant few features,</li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>(b) they need to buy more (lens, flash, remote, and so on) just to get what their compact camera had in-built, features wise,</li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>© then they still have less control over what they've got compared to everyone else with cheaper DSLRs. let alone cheaper compacts.</li>

</ul>

<p>Folks, great thoughts. I especially like the contrast between:</p>

<ul>

<li>"<em>... I wouldn't be so quick to bash Sony ... they might go down the drain</em> <em> ...</em> " </li>

</ul>

<p>... and:</p>

<ul>

<li>"<em>... The [sony Plus-30-series Alphas] ... don't really interest me ...</em> " </li>

</ul>

<p>No money spent = no money spent either way, about the same to me!</p>

<p>We've not set up a database here at Sony/Minolta photo.net, but I wonder how much new versus used gear we each have, and I KNOW people's resumptions of my are inaccurate over time. Sure, I have no new Sony logo gear, but that's Sony's fault, not mine. I do have the first full-frame sensor-based antishake, and it's a Sony from Sony and I would have paid them but they put it in free, so I gotta love 'em. I try every Sony that comes out. </p>

<p>Regarding Sony's announcement:</p>

<ul>

<li><a href="http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/consumer/digital_imaging/digital_cameras/dslr/release/40522.html">http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/consumer/digital_imaging/digital_cameras/dslr/release/40522.html</a> </li>

</ul>

<blockquote>

<p><em>"... The <strong>α380L</strong> , <strong>α330L</strong> and <strong>α230L</strong> will cost about <strong>$850</strong> , <strong>$650</strong> and <strong>$550</strong> , respectively. The <strong>L </strong> series one-lens kit comes with the <strong>SAL-1855</strong> standard zoom lens.</em></p>

<p ><em>The <strong>α380Y</strong> , <strong>α330Y</strong> and <strong>α230Y</strong> will cost about <strong>$1050</strong> , <strong>$850</strong> and <strong>$750</strong> , respectively. The <strong>Y </strong> series two-lens kit comes with both the SAL-1855 standard zoom and SAL-55200 telephoto zoom lenses.</em></p>

<ul type="disc">

<li ><em>The <strong>SAL-1855</strong> standard zoom lens will cost about <strong>$200</strong> .</em> </li>

<li ><em>The <strong>SAL-55200</strong> telephoto zoom lens will cost about <strong>$230</strong> .</em> </li>

<li ><em>The <strong>SAL-50F18</strong> portrait lens will cost about <strong>$150</strong> .</em> </li>

<li ><em>The <strong>HVL-F20AM</strong> flash will cost about <strong>$130</strong> ..."</em> </li>

</ul>

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<p>... no less than world-class <strong>Minolta Photographer Magnus Wedberg</strong> <a href="http://www.9000.org/">http://www.9000.org/</a> wrote:</p>

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<p><br /> "<em>... I salute [sony]'s announcement flurry with a resounding "Huh?" ...</em> "</p>

</blockquote>

<p>... along with further comments about Sony's offering so far, echoing my comments, including:</p>

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<p>"<em>... about the a900 ... the removal of the built-in flash is legendarily stupid. It's 1992 all over again (9xi) ...</em> "</p>

</blockquote>

<p>Ditto. (Follow more of the above discussion at <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Minolta/message/146774">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Minolta/message/146774</a> )</p>

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<p>Have you seen Epson drop the price of the Stylus Photo 1400 CcMmYK 13" printer from $400+ to ~$179? Sony seems averse to moving stock ... except endless defective battery swaps for no profit.</p>

<p>I'm not bashing Sony. I'm asking them to stop bashing themselves.</p>

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<p>Okay, maybe the following is fodder for a new thread, but try these two tasks with ANY camera and report back -- these are the things that bother me most about ANY camera, and I'm eager to see how the Sony Alpha Plus-30-series fares:</p>

<ul>

<li>(a) when I can't make a camera do what I want it to (usually just take a picture, but nowadays, something as simple as finding the self timer, or turning off the flash, maybe even getting it into camera mode instead of movie or playback or menu control mode) </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>(b) when I hand my camera off to someone to take our pictures, and they can't make it work (just point and shoot -- how can it be set such that it can't permit a new operator to immediately take a dang picture -- it's a CAMERA, stoopid!?)</li>

</ul>

<p>... that is, <strong><em>take a picture of something you want, when you want, the way you want</em> </strong> . </p>

<p>Let's see how the new Sony Alpha Plus-30 series fares.</p>

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<p>For instance, at the Sony store, aside from seeing yet another A900 under glass with no lens and no one offering to let people play with it (1 billion lost and counting), we approached a big TV, and I noticed our faces on it, then "flash" our faces were caught in a still image-- it was "smile recognition" technology, and it worked, refusing to take a picture while I frowned, then "snap/flash" when I smiled. "<em>Yes</em> ", my partner said, acknowledging the brilliant technology suitable for Homeland Security, "<em>But the pictures are awful!</em> ". With that we left the Sony store. <br>

Moral: all the technology in the world is merely unpurchasable <em>dancing baloney</em> unless the results are</p>

<ul>

<li>pretty (for my partner) and </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>controllable (for me).</li>

</ul>

<p>1 billion down and counting.</p>

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<p>Look, bashing me for bashing Sony does not make sales, but suggesting what you would buy, or not, as some contributors here have already done, might, just might be useful to Sony as they consider what to make next for us, and also for other visitors here considering what to acquire for themselves.</p>

<p>Any thoughts? Or are the Sony Alpha DSLR-Plus-30-series Alpha Mount Cameras just not for "us" at Sony/Minolta photo.net?</p>

<p>.</p>

[robert_paul1]

<p>"...yet, I can get 27" Sony <em><strong>Trinitron</strong> </em> TV for 1/3rd the price of the A700 3" LCD, by the way..."</p>

<p>Pete, that's funny, especially since Sony hasn't made a 'Trinitron' for the consumer market, for some time now. Sony sells their TV line under the <strong>Bravia</strong> name, which are all LCD units. The Trinitron name refers to their CRT units. I could give you the details as to why they were better that other TVs, but I don't want to bore everyone here (but I'm sure you're not afraid of doing so).</p>

<p>I guess you buy your TVs the way you buy your cameras-- <strong>USED</strong> !!!</p>

<p>Pete BM, you really need to join the 21th century.</p>

[paul_de_ley]

<blockquote>

<p>Pete BM, you really need to join the 21th century.</p>

 

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<p>Ah but like Pete I happen to agree the 20th century is getting more fun all the time: here's another scan with a resurrected canoscan FS4000 from Fuji Reala in my 700si... which didn't even need any lcd protectors at all!</p>

<p> </p><div></div>

[peterblaise]

<p>.</p>

<p>... the rain is like a protective covering ... the glass on a scanner is like a protective covering ... film has a protective covering ... all our lenses have Minolta's, Zeiss's, and other's hard won protective covering ... the mountains have an earthen protective covering ...</p>

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<p>Lack of "... <em>Oh? I didn't know that! Is there more about that?</em> ..." responses sometimes feels like a protective covering ...</p>

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<p><strong><em>NEW</em> </strong> (as in "new") <strong>Sony Trinitron 27" CRT TV</strong></p>

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<td><img id="ps-product-image" title="Sony KV - 27" src="http://base1.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=FroogleCatalog_CNETI242883.jpg&size=4&dhm=d9b3b15b&hl=en" alt="Sony KV - 27" title="Sony KV - 27" /></td>

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<p><em><strong>$336</strong> ... <strong>Sony's new</strong> (as in "new") KV-27FS120 27-inch FD <strong>Trinitron</strong> WEGA <strong>TV</strong> . FD <strong>Trinitron </strong> WEGA Flat Screen Technology is the basis of <strong>Sony</strong> 's award winning line of visually flat televisions ... creating sharper edges and better depth ... Digital Comb Filter, 16:9 Enhanced Mode (V-Compression), a Component Video (Y, PB, PR) Input, Dynamic Focus Circuitry, Dynamic Picture Processor Circuitry, and Magnetic Quadra Pole ...</em></p>

 

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<p><a href="http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.google:en-US:official&num=100&newwindow=1&q=sony+trinitron+tv&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14642510678706766854&ei=FQUUSrzTIpig8wTH5dWOBA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=6#ps-sellers">http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.google:en-US:official&num=100&newwindow=1&q=sony+trinitron+tv&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14642510678706766854&ei=FQUUSrzTIpig8wTH5dWOBA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=6#ps-sellers</a></p>

</blockquote>

<p>Okay, <em>half </em> price.<br>

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<p>Unlike RGB LCDs, the A700 has discrete R, G, and B LCDs as Sony was so keen in introducing in their Trinitron screens, available as a name on the inside or the outside of the cabinet, as other makers bought Sony source display glass. I just picked up a Sony Trinitron (says so right on the cabinet) yesterday, and I didn't "shop" used -- it was free! ;-) </p>

<p>There has been much argument over the resolution of the A700 LCD because it is NOT RGB, but has discrete R, G, and B elements, not 921,600 RGB pixels, but is 640 x 480 x R, and 640 x 480 x G, and 640 x 480 x B, an Sony's classical Trinitron pattern, effectively 307,200 RGB picture elements, not 921,600 RGB picture elements.</p>

<ul>

<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille</a> </li>

</ul>

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<p>Thanks for the reminder that we are sorely in need of historical perspective here at photo.net in order to know what we are talking about, especially with the Adorama storefront hawking <em>new </em> stuff here, but at least they are a great supplier of <strong><em>used </em> </strong> gear, too -- a great way to support photo.net is to buy <strong><em>used </em> </strong> from Adorama, in fact. Thanks for the reminder!</p>

<ul>

<li><a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=category&cat1=Used&kbid=3925">http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=category&cat1=Used&kbid=3925</a> </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>Minolta Auto Focus · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Cameras" >Cameras</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Lenses" >Lenses</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Zoom%20Lenses" >Zoom Lenses</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Lens%20Converters" >Lens Converters</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Backs" >Backs</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Flashes" >Flashes</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Motor/Winder" >Motor/Winder</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Accessories" >Accessories</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Instructions" >Instructions</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Auto%20Focus&cat3=Card%27s" >Card's</a> </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>Minolta Manual Focus · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Cameras" >Cameras</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Lenses" >Lenses</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Zoom%20Lenses" >Zoom Lenses</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Finders" >Finders</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Flashes" >Flashes</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Lens%20Converters" >Lens Converters</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Motor/Winder" >Motor/Winder</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Accessories" >Accessories</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Manual%20Focus&cat3=Instructions" >Instructions</a> </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>Minolta Digital · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Digital&cat3=Cameras" >Cameras</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Minolta%20Digital&cat3=Accessories" >Accessories</a> </li>

</ul>

<ul>

<li>Sony Digital · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Sony%20Digital&cat3=Cameras" >Cameras</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Sony%20Digital&cat3=Lenses" >Lenses</a> · <a href="http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Sony%20Digital&cat3=Accessories" >Accessories</a> </li>

</ul>

<p>.</p>

[peterblaise]

<p>.</p>

<p>In a semi related story, Pentax annouces a model 7 (hmm ...) with HD, HDR, 77-segment metering, mirror lockup, 11-point auto focus, and so on:</p>

<ul>

<li><a href="http://www.photoreporter.com/article.asp?issueID=121&num=08&vol=17&articleType=p&articleID=2820">http://www.photoreporter.com/article.asp?issueID=121&num=08&vol=17&articleType=p&articleID=2820</a> </li>

</ul>

<p>Sony? Sony? Sony?</p>

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[robert_paul1]

<p>Pete, how is your post on the Pentax related to your original post about new LCD screen protectors? You're high jacking your own post. If you want to discuss the Pentax, go to the Pentax forum, or at the very least start another topic.</p>

[alanbrowne]

<p>Sony are a-holes making people buy protectors for a high price when the cost of merely including it with the camera would be pennies.</p>

[peterblaise]

<p>.</p>

<blockquote>

<p>Earlier: "<em>... how is ... the [new] Pentax [announcement] related to [sony's] new LCD screen protectors ...</em> "</p>

</blockquote>

<p>Great question. Lemme see. Pentax is announcing a 7-series camera with many of the things we Alphatographers want, and Sony is announcing 2-series and 3-series cameras with diminished features but additional LCD protectors ...</p>

<p>Lemme spell it out ... oh, never mind. Irony and subtlety and humor are such an ephemeral thing. The whole "<em>Oh, look, LCD PROTECTORS!</em> " was kind of a yawn on top of the Alpha Plus-30-series announcement yawn.</p>

 

<ul>

<li><strong><em>Anyone else's take on Sony-versus-whatever (mostly it's own supposed customers -- existing Alphatographers) is welcome.</em> </strong> </li>

</ul>

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<p>I'm not sure the price of the LCD protectors, but they are probably cheaper than the LCDs they protect.<br>

Here, let me Google that for you:<br /> <strong></strong><br>

<strong>LCD Protect Cover</strong> <br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh1am.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh1am.jpg</a> <br /> PCK-LH4AM for α900 $17<br /> PCK-LH1AM for α700 $12<br /> PCK-LH2AM for α350/300/200 $8<br /> <strong>LCD Protect Cover </strong> <br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh5am.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-lh5am.jpg</a> <br /> PCK-LH5AM for α380/330/230 $12<br /> <strong>LCD Protect Sheet </strong> <br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls1am.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls1am.jpg</a> <br /> PCK-LS4AM for α900 $21<br /> PCK-LS1AM for α700 $14<br /> PCK-LS2AM for α350/300/200 $12<br /> <strong>LCD Protect Sheet</strong> <br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls5am.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/pck-ls5am.jpg</a> <br /> PCK-LS5AM for α380/330 $11<br /> PCK-LS6AM for α230<br /> <strong>LCD Hood</strong> <br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/sh-l1am.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/images/accessories/sh-l1am.jpg</a> <br /> SH-L1AM for α380/330/230 $40?</p>

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<p>What fun to scour the globe to find toys for our new kit!</p>

<p>NOT!</p>

<p>.</p>

[john_mcmillin]

<p>I already have a screen protector on my new A700. But tomorrow I'm shopping for something extra to add to it-- a color correction (CC) filter. I guess that about 20 points magenta, in a slim acetate form, would be about right to slip beneath the LCD protector. If only I'd kept that Cibachrome filter kit! The purpose would be to correct the nasty olive-green-to-pee-yellow color cast I see in the A700's photos upon review. Back home on the monitor, the images look fine, but no amount of fiddling with WB seems to eliminate this on the back of the camera. My KM 7D's screen was smaller, dimmer and much less detailed, but the colors were pretty true, and seemed to lack this kind of color error. I could say much the same about my D40; that screen is a little magenta, but at least it's an attractive color cast. Today I went by the store to confirm that from the A350 to the A900, they all do that. </p>

<p>Doesn't anyone else notice this? It may not matter if you shoot strong colored subjects, always using RAW. But I prefer to correct WB as I shoot, not later. I also like to show clients the results on the back of the camera. But looking at this "bigger, brighter, sharper" screen makes me want to say, "Ewww!"</p>

[paul_de_ley]

<blockquote>The purpose would be to correct the nasty olive-green-to-pee-yellow color cast I see in the A700's photos upon review.

<p>Doesn't anyone else notice this?</p>

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<p>I wouldn't quite describe it like that but there definitely is a huge difference between the colors as they appear on the A700's lcd versus on a monitor!</p>

[jiun_der_chung]

<p>Yep, images look green on my A700, but hey, the last thing I worry about is colour on the LCD as I shoot raw.</p>

[ricardovaste]

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<p>Yep, images look green on my A700, but hey, the last thing I worry about is colour on the LCD as I shoot raw.</p>

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<p>Just my thoughts. I hardly look at the LCD for anything other than to glance at what settings I'm on or consult the histogram.</p>

[john_mcmillin]

<p>I already have a screen protector on my new A700. But tomorrow I'm shopping for something extra to add to it-- a color correction (CC) filter. I guess that about 20 points magenta, in a slim acetate form, would be about right to slip beneath the LCD protector. If only I'd kept that Cibachrome filter kit! The purpose would be to correct the nasty olive-green-to-pee-yellow color cast I see in the A700's photos upon review. Back home on the monitor, the images look fine, but no amount of fiddling with WB seems to eliminate this on the back of the camera. My KM 7D's screen was smaller, dimmer and much less detailed, but the colors were pretty true, and seemed to lack this kind of color error. I could say much the same about my D40; that screen is a little magenta, but at least it's an attractive color cast. Today I went by the store to confirm that from the A350 to the A900, they all do that. </p>

<p>Doesn't anyone else notice this? It may not matter if you shoot strong colored subjects, always using RAW. But I prefer to correct WB as I shoot, not later. I also like to show clients the results on the back of the camera. But looking at this "bigger, brighter, sharper" screen makes me want to say, "Ewww!"</p>

[ricardovaste]

<p>Sorry John, but this sounds like a waste of money. What does it matter if the colour is off a little on the LCD? You're not going to hang the camera on the wall for display, are you? I doubt any clients will even if an image is slightly out of focus, never mind a slight colour cast. Maybe worth taking a laptop with you to display the images more clearly to your clients?</p>

[freewolf]

<p>I bought one of Sony's $12.00 protectors for my a350, and it lasted A WHOLE 16 HOURS before it broke, with no provocation! WOW! I'm gonna rush right out and buy me another one!</p>

<p>At least I won't have to go through all the envy stuff knowing that my a350 is probably better than its new "replacement" model. With regard to all of the latest exciting developments at Sony, I'm beginning to think the Canikonistas have a point or two...</p>

[freewolf]

<p>... as well as the Pentaxians, as Peter points out.</p>

<p>Sony inherited the Minolta technology and developed the first commercially available digital camera... Seems a real shame that they can't do any better than this "plus 30" downgrade and new cheesy screen protectors in the 21th [sic] century.</p>

[leigh_higginson]

<p>Hi guys <br>

This way of topic but the scene with the screen protector is just another one the thing tha t sony do i see the panasonic g1 allows the lcd to turn around completly so that the screen faces in, why should i need to protect something that is almost impossible to use.<br>

When i brought my sony a350 + kits lens the talk on this forum was how wonderful "the mind of Sony/minolta" was do i detect an air of desension? I used my new purchase with fevor of an enthusiast inspired by better quality, better control over photographic stuff (i'm 60 years old this week and ive onwned a camera for 9 monthes never had one before there was a black thing in the drawer but it never used more than 2 rolls of film a year,) ibought a panasonic superzone FZ18 18mm-500mm in one smooth action touch the shutter instant focus , dial in aperture priority, look in the evf everthing i want know there in front of my eye. So the Sony was a step up I got 2 minolta lens big n little beer cans and this kit lens 18-55mm and i have a minolta film cammera with fresh film and a new battery. I managed to buy a manfroto tripod with a ball head built in level quick release the bussiness whether my photos are any good or not its the doing thats the bit I like. AS i drive around cornwall in th e south west of england (I nearly put great britain but how can a country be great if its politicians cant even fiddle their expenses without getting caught useless ---- insert your own four latter epitath) my breath is taken away by the beauty of the landscape as it changes as spring moves on and everthing is budding and begining to blossum.So I try to capture the images That I see as Im driving around so I find somewhere to park and start loooking for that image what usually happens is the spot i saw the image is in the miidle of busy road. My photos didn.t look any better and the whole thig was a bit of a faff and i becoming less happy with my new toy and I couldn't put my finger on why? and its i don't like the feel of it in my hands it feels clunky and huge and i have carry a huge chunk of lens so that i can get details out the landscape and talking of lens the church at Duloe seems to curve upwards and out and i dont remember it doing that I'm planing to return to find out. I havn't had this with the fz18 Iv'e gone back to the fz18 for now even withits limited range of f stops. I know you will say I need to pursiever but i dont like the feel of the camera, the quality on the view finder is far supriour but it doesnt tell me enough I like to do Hdr photos the panasonic auto-bracket does +/- 1 ev set it and press the shutter and it takes 3 shots the sony goes to only +/- )0.7ev and you have to hold the shutter down or it stops i would have liked +/-3ev And having made my case for a superzoom I am considering a used nikon d40 as I have a nikkormat with 3 pre ai lenses a 28mm f2.8 35mmf2.8 and a 43mm-68mmf4-5.6 which is enough to get me going i havn't handled the d40 yet but the lenses are so tactile I want to touch them so its a new photographic experience I'm after then? Thinking out aloud. Li</p>

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[peterblaise]

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<p>From:<br>

<a href="http://www.dyxum.com/poll/poll_results.asp?status=hvala">http://www.dyxum.com/poll/poll_results.asp?status=hvala</a><br>

Are you considering purchasing a230, a330 or a380 camera?

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<p> <img src="http://www.dyxum.com/images/decoration/anketa_Green.gif" alt="315,122377622378" width="315" height="10" /> 90%</p>

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<p >I don't know:</p>

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<p> <img src="http://www.dyxum.com/images/decoration/anketa_Green.gif" alt="18,3566433566434" width="18" height="10" /> 5%</p>

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<p>That's pretty much what I thought -- the 2009 Sony Alpha DSLR-Plus-30-series is NOT aimed at current Alpha Mount Camera photographers!</p>

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[ricardovaste]

<p>Similarly, the A700 doesn't sell particularly well, merely 'okay'. It's cameras like the 230/330/380 and also A900 that are most important to our mount in many ways. They bring in new users who are just starting out in photography who will learn and thrive under them, and possibly seek an upgrade at some point in the future. Similarly, the A900 offers something very unique and of high quality, so naturally attracts enthusiasts from different brands. Sony sold a lot of the A200/A300/A350's, I expect them to do similar with these new ones. I also trust them to continue deliver goods for current a-mount shooters, like they always have.</p>