Zeiss 515 Folding Camera

[carlos_da_silva1]

<p>Recently bought an Older Zeiss Ikon Folder in 6x4.5 format.<br>

First roll of 120 only gave me 8 shots. Looks like at some time the 6x4.5 back got switch to a 6x9 back so the red window for frame number are on the wrong side of the paper backing.<br>

Any ideas on how to proceed? </p>

[ken_rapp]

<p>Post a picture of the camera. It would be pretty hard to swap those two backs as the cameras are very different in size. 6x4.5 on the left and 6x9 on the right.<img src="G:\DCIM\101ND800/_pro8822.jpg" alt="" /></p><div></div>

[carlos_da_silva1]

<p>Good Point.<br>

Windows does seem to be on wrong side for 6x4.5 format, even though the film advance winder is in correct place.<br>

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[Two23]

<p>Could this be one of those cameras where you advance the film numbers from one window to another?</p>

<p>Kent in SD</p>

[carlos_da_silva1]

<p>Thank you, that must be it.<br>

Explains why your's is in the center on the opposite side compared to mine.</p>

<p>I would have to see a number Eg.1 on the left side first, then same number a second time on the right<br>

8 numbers would give 16 pictures.</p>

[John Seaman]

<p>Your camera was probably made before the 16 on numbers for 6x4.5cm were added to the 120 film backing paper. Hence the two red windows, using the 8 on 6x9 numbers in the way you have described.</p>

[jaydann_walker]

<p>Download and read the manual. It's all explained in there for you, in black-and-white letters, perhaps even with an illustration. </p>

<p>Yours is, I believe, the prewar camera. Fun cameras, the optics are generally iffy, and the bellows often leak light like a sieve and water. Unless it has been serviced, which is possible but will likely be expensive (I had one CLA'd in 1999 and ended up paying three times the original price of the camera, with the shutter speeds still zonky afterwards), the resulting may disappoint you. Avoid shooting color! After two rolls and lousy results I gave up and sold mine to a collector. Not worth the bother or the effort, I decided. </p>

<p>BTW, Kent Staubus and Seaman had the closest to correct explanations about what happened to your roll. </p>

[steve_mareno1]

<p>Hardly. It's rare to find Zeiss folders w/ bad bellows, and the lenses are great, even the 3 element Novars.</p>

<p>Yes, you use one window for the first shot (1), then advance it to the second shot (also 1). Highly advisable to make a habit of winding on after every shot so you don't have to think about it. Zeiss made things confusing by stating that the cameras took 6x9 film inside the film chamber. This just means that they take 120 film.</p>

<p>Here's a shot from my 6x4.5 515 w/ Arista EDU Ultra 100 in Mic-X full strength. Great little cameras that pack a medium format punch.</p>

<p><img id="fullsizeMedia" src="http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg514/stevemareno/microdol%20x/31%20100%20ISO_zpsqaf0cap3.jpg" alt=" photo 31 100 ISO_zpsqaf0cap3.jpg" width="1000" height="641.6015625" data-link="src{:fullsizeUrl} width{:rsWidth} height{:rsHeight}" /></p>

[carlos_da_silva1]

<p>I also have a Ikonta 524 in 6x6 that takes great shots.<br>

Left the plastic sleeve on the slide film for effect during scan, Velvia 50 at night.<br>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/carlosdiaopter/Pets/r3%202_zpshu7m0nkc.jpg" alt="" /><br>

<img src="/bboard//img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/carlosdiaopter/Pets/r3%202_zpshu7m0nkc.jpg" alt="" /><br>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/carlosdiaopter/Pets/r2%202_zpstwecj6gm.jpg" alt="" /><br>

And a more conventional shot on print film, scanned.<br>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/carlosdiaopter/Pets/Copy%20of%20Inouk%20amp%20Abel_zpstvc6wotn.jpg" alt="" /></p>

[chuck_foreman1]

Ok!?!

 

Now I know what to expect with a 6x4,5 with only one window! I have a dual window version. I'd suspect too

that this was a pre-war version. Need to compare SN's I guess but it is with an un-coated Tessar. My

expereince also is the Zeiss bellows are more often light tight than the other guys!!