jmlphotography Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 <p>I've just acquired a Vista SP. It has everything except film holders. Checking EBay I'm seeing prices from $6 to $90. Can someone give me some advice on what to buy, what to avoid or any other tips.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Lisco or Fidelity are (no joke) the same products and you can't go wrong with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_watson1 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 <p>Lisco Regal II, Fidelity Elite, Riteway. Newer ones with plastic dark slides (plastic tabs, not metal tabs). I avoid wooden holders because they can warp.</p> <p>Read this: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/holders.html</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_watson1 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 <p><em>Lisco or Fidelity are (no joke) the same products and you can't go wrong with either.</em></p> <p>And Riteway. In the end all three were made by the same guy in the same "factory" in LA. IIRC he worked for Calumet which is also gone. When he retired that was the end of most new film holders. Perhaps Toyo still makes new, IDK.</p> <p>There's a thread on film holder history somewhere in the LargeFormatPhotography.info forums. Somewhere. I think I posted in it. Maybe a decade ago. Again, IDK.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 <p>Bruce has told you pretty much what you need to know. All three are equivalent, made the same way--and only vary in price for used by the year that certain LF fervors are in vogue. I have about 50 holders--most are Fidelity, the rest are Lisco, and a few Riteway mixed in. I have acquired for free a few 60+ year old wooden ones, and as stated--are often warped or have a slightly off registration plane.</p> <p>Pay the lowest you can get--observe the photos carefully. Make sure that they all include dark slides. Buying in lots gets you the best bang for the buck. Inspect them carefully on receipt to ensure that the light seal materials are intact and functional. Be sure to label each side with a distinct number and A or B (e.g., 2A, 2B) so that you know what you have shot after logging them.</p> <p>P.S. The slides with the wire pull are older than the ones with the plastic tab. Shoot for the latter when buying.</p> "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryp Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=4x5+Sheet+Film+Holder&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&usedSearch=1&Top+Nav-Search=">Used 4x5 sheet film holders</a>.<br> Henry Posner<br /><strong>B&H Photo-Video</strong></p> Henry Posner B&H Photo-Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmlphotography Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 <p>Thanks everyone for the great advice. I will definitely need to buy used. I'll keep my eye out for something in the $10 range with plastic tabs, possibly in a lot of 4 or 5.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_darnton2 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 <p>I'm really not sure where these fantasies about warped wood holders come from, but I bet it's not from people who have actually used any. I have more than 100 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10 holders in wood, some very ancient, and not one of them has ever given me a bit of trouble. I just checked ten of the oldest 5x7 ones, and the greatest warp is several tenths of a mm--that would easily be straightened out by the spring back. . . . assuming the back itself was flat, which most probably aren't anyway.</p> <p>Wood holders are lighter, and they're much cheaper. Do yourself a favor and pay $3-4 each for those, and if you find a real dud, you'll still be able to afford to throw it out.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_mason Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 <p>The best are Toyo. Silky darkslide action... :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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