gib Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I was wondering in a not so urgent way about the number of cameras that offer a 100 per cent view of the image in the viewfinder in 35mm format. I am aware of the Nikon F2 that does this. Any others? I checked the archive but didnt find anything, most questions seemed to be aimed at eyepoint relief which is somewhat related. My point in asking this comes from a question in another forum about getting the image right in the camera and not relying on the post shot editing possibilities of s/w like Photoshop. The colour slide and its relationship to 100> viewfinders is a very specific part of this question. I would imagine this narrows itself down to SLR cameras but I could be wrong. Thanks for any ideas and information in response to this question. Bill Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Nikon F, F2, F3, F4, & F5<P>Canon F1n, EOS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NK Guy Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 All EOS 1 series cameras - the 1, 1N, 1N RS, 1V, 1D, 1Ds. The first four are film; the last two are digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd peach seattle, washi Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I agree with Ellis on his Nikon listing. You mention color slides; be aware that the typical slide mount intrudes on the image frame perhaps 2-3%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I'll add that 100% viewfinders are superb for experimenting with and evaluating vignetting. Not sure if lens hood X works on lens Y, no problem. 100% slide mounts are available but do keep the cropping in mind if you intend to keep your slides in standard mounts. (if you bother with mounts at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_gonzalez Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Minolta Maxxum 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Too get 100% of what you see in the viewfinder to be 100% on the film is all well and good; but unless you find a printer that can provide you with 100% film area prints, then its all for naught. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats nilson photography Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 I think, by now, you begin to see a pattern from all the answers, namely that pro-grade SLRs show 100% and consumer-grade don't. I believe the rationale is that pro's and serious amateurs shoot slides and b/w where you (have the potential to) use the full image area, whereas aunt Selma wants colour prints. Aunt Selma and the print lab are equally likely to crop heads and feet off the subjects and with a little spare at the margins, chances are that the print comes out allright anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_fleetwood Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Rangefinder cameras show >100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg_na Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Rangefinders are terrible for accurate framing. The frame outlines for the various lenses are just coarse approximations of the image frame and there is always parallax error at close range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Mats, I suspect it has more to do with economics. On amateur grade, it is not considered critical to have 100%, and there are cost savings from using a smaller mirror or pentaprism. If the price was the same, I expect every camera would show 100%. FYI, I looked up the Pentax LX, which I was thinking showed 100%- but it was like 95% in one direction, 98% in the other- close, but not quite there. It certainly wasn't intended for casual snapshooters, though. I discovered some time back that the 1-hour machine at the local drugstore could not print 100% of a frame- they could shift the film one way or the other, and print either end (so I could get the locomotive, or the caboose, but not the whole train!). Considering that they were printing 4x6 prints that are EXACTLY the same shape as the negative, this was a rather irritating problem. I have never read or seen information anywhere on the accuracy of the actual negative size in the camera- is it EXACTLY 24mm x36mm in every camera, or are there slight variations there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd thacker Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Contax RTS III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib Posted February 4, 2003 Author Share Posted February 4, 2003 thanks for the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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