Troll Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>I've wanted a Tessar for my Contax IIa, but I can't tell what this is. Says made in Germany, but not West nor Jena. Wonder if it's pre or post WW2? Coated? No answer from the seller. Any info would be appreciated.<br>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zeiss-RF-50mm-f-3-5-Tessar-Rigid-For-Contax-Rangefinder-Rare/251522594552?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22591%26meid%3D6853872822422854579%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9790%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251522594552</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_foreman1 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>I wish I trusted myself enough to boldly claim some facts.. but I'm gettin' old and I don't trust myself.. so I will preamble this with the popular IIRC ...complete brass bodies were typical of pre-war construction, but general rule was a "Jena" marking. I am 96% sure this is an uncoated lens. I seem to remember reading that there was some post war production using simple brass like these and that might explain the lack of "Jena", but coating?? Well it was right after the war and they may have been scraping the bottom of the barrel for some hard cash.<br> The possibility that this is a soviet copy exists, but I don't recall any production for this model. This would have to be a Frankenstein Soviet..effort and then more likely a "one of " as opposed to a real Dewey Cheatem and Howe model. My impressions. Interested in others replies with real source material and experience.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>What's the serial number? It has the answer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_lockerbie Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>Looks to be a pre war lens, and as the seller says, quite scarce, but for less money you can have the much better F2 Sonnar.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>Now that I can see the link in the original post, the s/n means early 1950s. The lens appears to be coated.</p> <p>If the lens were engraved Carl Zeiss Jena the s/n would mean 1929, i.e., before the Contax was introduced.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>Agree it's a single coated post war lens. The purple tint gives it away.</p> <p>Kent in SD</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_robison3 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>That e-bay vendor, 'villagegoodies' tends to have fantasy pricing on a lot of their items. Then they can say "Oh look, now 20% off" Yeah, 20% off a price 2X to 4X current market value. I'd pass on this just because of the seller. Take a look at some of the pricing on the other stuff they have. No connection to the real world. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>Thanks, Guys.<br> Guess that I'll either make a reasonable (low) offer or just pass.<br> I used to have an early collapsible 2.8, but never got to make a picture with it before I lost it to a friend's wife when she divorced him and cleaned out the complete Contax outfit that I'd loaned him. Boy, he lost a lot of other good stuff, too!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>The great thing about ebay is as cool and "rare" as something seems, if you are patient another one will come along. Check the completed auction prices before you bid, to see what kind of a deal this is or isn't.</p> <p>Kent in SD</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 <p>From "A Lens Collectors Vade Mecum" Zeiss serial number list:<br /> © Carl Zeiss, Oberkochen, West Germany.<br /> 1951-1953 500,000-1,100,000</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleg_kosyakovsky Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 <p>What is this lens's min focus distance?<br> There is a much more recent russian/soviet lens Industar 50/3.5 that appears to be Tessar and has great image quality, flare resistance included. Existed in both RF and SLR versions. The only drawback - the MFD in the RF version is 1m. The price is much lower.<br> I have one made in 1970-s; hardly use it, but wasn't able to reject the purchase because of the great condition. When I say "quality is great" , I mean on a 16 MPixel APSC Sony E-mount; cannot comment on full frame.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 <p><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=406178">Oleg Kosyakovsky</a> , May 13, 2014; 02:45 a.m. What is this lens's min focus distance?<br> The Contax body determines the focus on their 50mm lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 <blockquote> <p>"I'd pass on this just because of the seller" <em><strong>john r.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p>I feel I have to come to the defense of this fine seller.<br /> Vacheron Constantin watches, Rolleiflex2.8f, Contarex Super, Hasselblad, Zeiss Sterotar, and Leicaflex SL2 50th Anniversary, <strong>etc. </strong><br /> <br /> Com'on <strong><em>john</em></strong>, this guy knows his stuff! Plus his pricing is proper Retail.<br /> Thanks to <strong><em>john</em></strong>, I just put him in my "favorite seller" list.<br /> <br /> <strong>BTW:</strong> The Tessar lens he offered is a rare "Rigid" model and besides, it SOLD...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w3 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 <p>I've seen lots of his stuff on the 'bay. It's more like MSRP, not retail. He puts on an item, immediately discounts it 15 or 20 percent, and we're supposed to go, "ooooh, good deal," and buy it now. Mostly, those auctions just run out and get relisted, a circle of selling.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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