luis_marco_de_sebastian Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Hii Bought a Rolleiflex 3.5F recently (s.n. 2828525) with a planar lens but without the lightmeter. the general condition is mint, looks really nice, no wear no using traces...then i noticed about the interconnected shutter, but this only happens while in the green scale, not in the faster shutter speeds (red). (By the way my camera does not have the groove in the aperture wheel so as to uncouple shutter/aperture).My questiom is: Is this normal behaviour? still have to develop my first rolls, but while shooting shutter speeds seemed accurate ONLY while using the red scale (up to 1 sec), slower shutter speeds (2 to 60 sec) all seem to shot really fast, just fractions of a second instead several sec. The "red" 1 sec is accurate but not the green ones, am i doing something wrong or is there somethign with the camera? (i know old rolleis usually have problems with slow speeds but i was not expecting setting 8 sec to find out that the shutter was only opened for a fraction of a sec, that seems too much of a difference and same goes for the other green values).while using green speeds the shutter is only opened for a fraction of a sec except if i keep the release depressed when it stays opened till i stop pushing the release. Any advice is greatly appreciated Sorry for the long post but i need clarification over this as i have a money back guaratee and want to know if this is me or the camera. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger c Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 There is almost certainly something wrong with the slow speed escapement. A service will sort it out. I had the same problem with my Leica IIIa (this has a separate slow speed dial too), but after a CLA it's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwstutterheim Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Luis, the Synchro-Compur shutter has speeds from 1/500 - 1 sec ony. They are shown as red digits. The green digits do not represent timed speeds, but B setting. The shutter stays open as long as you press the shutter and you yourself have to do the timing. <br>Please find a manual <a href="http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~dmakos/square/manual/rolleitlr/index.html">here</a>.<br> Ferdi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwstutterheim Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Roger, your ancient Leica IIIa seems to be more sophisticated than a 1966 Rolleiflex 3,5 F ;-). Two sets of speeds! Ferdi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick roberts Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 The speeds longer than 1s are for metering purposes only - the actual setting is B. You need to manually keep the shutter open for the indicated time. Your camera is functioning absolutely correctly. And on the F models, shutter speed and aperture are NOT linked by the Light Value system. I suggest you point your browser to http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~dmakos/square/manual/rolleitlr/index.html where there's a user manual for the F. And congratulations, you've got the best camera in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_hovland Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Even after CLA your actual shutter speeds (on any non-electronic leaf shutter) may not match the settings on the dial. You could have the technician make a list of the actual shutter speeds at the various settings. Or you could get a shutter tester from Calumet (stock number AA8075 $99.99). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis_marco_de_sebastian Posted December 7, 2002 Author Share Posted December 7, 2002 thanks I am very pleased that this is normal behaviour. Still i did not understand why the green scale values are interconnected: with 2 sec i can set every f stop; with 4 sec. i can not set 3,5 but all the rest yes; with 8sec i can´t set 3,5 either, with 15 sec i can´t set 8 and so on... If i have to manually count the time keeping the release pressed for the needed time why are they interconnected? it seems that i can just set 2 sec and whatever f stop i want and keep the release pressed for 15 sec for exaqmple if i want. Am i correct? Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Roger You ar giving erroneous information to Luis. Please understand that green numbers are for length of time that are used for BULB exposures. When in the green, the shutter stays open as long as the button or cable release is held down. You owe Luis an apology. Not even your Leica operates in the way you describe! Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Luis wrote: thanks I am very pleased that this is normal behaviour. Still i did not understand why the green scale values are interconnected: with 2 sec i can set every f stop; with 4 sec. i can not set 3,5 but all the rest yes; with 8sec i can´t set 3,5 either, with 15 sec i can´t set 8 and so on... If i have to manually count the time keeping the release pressed for the needed time why are they interconnected? it seems that i can just set 2 sec and whatever f stop i want and keep the release pressed for 15 sec for exaqmple if i want. Am i correct? -----------> Yes, you're correct. It is like it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Interconnected f-stops and shutter speeds could be set for EVS or LVS (the same thing) numbers. Exposure meters of the era also gave EVS or LVS numbers. They stood for Light Value System or Exposure Value System. Another example of how "making things simpler" made things difficult. Even Hasselblad fell into that inane mind set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 The 3,5F doesn't have the EVS system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 The "E" models use the EV system. This likely is a 3.5E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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