Should I be paid?

[not_paid]

<h6 >What is the going rate for a photographs that gets published on the front page of several local papers? I gave this guy at the paper who called me for photos. I said I would like to be paid but he never and he published the picture on the front page of three local papers.<br></h6><div></div>

[Matt Laur]

<p>When you say you "gave" him the photo ... what sort of details did you discuss <em>before</em> providing him with the image? Did he credit you with the photo, in print? The simplest thing to do would be to send him an invoice.</p>

[Jerry_]

<p>You *donated* the photograph in the hopes of getting paid.</p>

<p>Next time, try to get a editor to sign an agreement on what payment would be made if you have a photograph the newspaper might need-use-accept. This should be done before you hand over your image(s.)</p>

<p>The newspaper should give you a "Photo by Dorthy Roi" credit line, but most newspapers are good at accepting *donated* photographs...some are not so good at paying for editorial use images.</p>

<p> </p>

[cricketprints]

 

<p>Normally you figure that out before they publish it. You can base your price off (1) the difficulty or skill level needed to get the shot, (2) quality of the image, (3) luck of being in the right place at the right time and (4) rarity, how many others got a usable image from the event. On a scale of 1 to 10, the above shot is about a 1 or 2, scoring 1 point because nobody else probably took the shot and another based on 3 papers running, it must have been of some importance. Any photo scoring a 1-3 is going to get you $0 to $25, usually you should be happy to see your name under the image, in a small local paper you can't expect much more. Now if Michael Jackson is in the ambulance, there may be some money for you. <br>

You can either e-mail the paper and ask for a few bucks or just tell them that in the future you would like to be paid and ask them what they might pay on your average submission. Again you would want to refer to the scale & set your price before you actually send them the pix. </p>

 

 

[richardsperry]

<p>What is special about the shot? Other than the agent ran it to 3 local papers.</p>

<p>I see that scene all the time, it just looks different. </p>

<p>If I took it, and sent it in, I would be happy with $30 per paper. $90 would be the most I would expect for it. If I were running a paper, I would probably not pay that much for it.</p>

 

<blockquote>

<p>Now if Michael Jackson is in the ambulance, there may be some money for you.</p>

 

</blockquote>

<p>Ya, exactly. The guy has been in a crypt for over a year. That <em>would</em> be photo worthy.</p>

[john_h.1]

<p>In the future don't turn over images with a mere verbal expression that there is a 'desire' to be paid. You hoped for something but didn't require it and didn't even clarify what it was specifically that you hoped for. Your own unmemorialized words were then literally applied.</p>

<p>Would you give your used car to someone who called that was interested in it and just verbally say you hope to get some sort of money one day?</p>

[daverhaas]

<p>Payment is typically discussed up front, before the image is sent. <br>

As noted above - most papers will gladly accept donated photos or photographers and at a minimum provide a credit such as "submitted photo by xxxx" </p>

<p>Going rate for a single shot for on-line publication is $20-$50 - so you're not going to make a fortune either way off of this. </p>

<p>Dave</p>

 

[andy_wager1]

<blockquote>

<h6>I said I would like to be paid but he never</h6>

 

</blockquote>

<p>In future don't say "I would like to be paid". Tell them that they cannot publish without payment.</p>

<p> </p>

[randallfarhy]

<p>How long ago were they published? When I freelanced in the 1980's, it was common practice to drop off film or processed images to the newsroom for print and recieve payment anywhere from 1-3 weeks later. Rarely did I have to negotiate, there was a mutual understanding that if the images ran, payment would be made. Perhaps times have changed, or it was due to establishing a good working relationship with the necessary people. Either way, this type of image would typically garner $20-$25 per use plus a by-line. It's my guess that the agent doesn't work for free, neither should you. The next time a situaion like this arises, before handing over the goods, ask what the going rates are and when payment can be expected. This lets them know you expect payment for it's use. They can then decide if it's worth running or not.</p>

[craig_shearman1]

<p>I worked for newspapers as an reporter/editor/photographer for about 15 years. Can't quote current rates but in the early 90s even AP and UPI paid as little as $100 for a basic assignment and the wires/local papers generally paid less than that for an unassigned photo. On one hand there has been inflation since then but on the other hand papers have gotten even cheaper. The turnaround is too quick to expect to get anyhing in writing -- the value of a news photo is only hours, so it's a matter of a verbal agreement, but the check might not come for a month. What was the news value of this photo (aside from its dollar value)? All I see is an amublance or two coming down a road with no traffic, no sign of an accident, no clue as to what's going on, shot from far too far away.</p>

[not_paid]

<p>yes, I know, I was two miles form the accident I should have kept walking. Some kids told me that is was way up there. The traffic was backed for for 7km,. i would have picked a better photo than he picked out of all the ones I had, they even said they were going to the accident but they were actually leaving. thank your you help everyone.</p>

 

[craig_shearman1]

<p>Ah-hah. Editors are not always known for picking the best shot. They should have at least cropped in on the ambulances but maybe they were trying to show the traffic backup.</p>

[not_paid]

<p>They did crop it and it was published the other day. I wrote him a told him I didnt think it was the greatest photo but I would be interested in doing more work like this just call me and tell me what you need and I asked him for a small payment he never got back to me</p>

 

[not_paid]

<p>I asked the owner of this site if he would remove this thread for me please. This was his response, dont post on photo.net. <br>

<strong>You can remove any gallery images you have uploaded before you do this, but you cannot remove any of your forum postings.</strong></p>

<h5 data-ft="{"> These people will not remove my stuff. You can remove any gallery images you have uploaded before you do this, but you cannot remove any of your forum postings.</h5>

<br /> : Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:53:17 -0800<br /> Subject: Re: remove me off your site.<br /> From: contact@photo.net<br /> <br /> If you mean that you want to remove all traces of your contributions from photo.net, you can't.<br /> <br /> If you can log in, you can mark your account as "deleted" by going to your workspace, clicking on the "unsubscribe" link (it's not just for unsubscribing from email alerts, even though it looks that way) and clicking on the link that marks your account as deleted. Your account will be tagged as "deleted" and this will also unsubscribe you from the newsletter (if you were receiving it), but if you log in again (which you can do), that notice will be removed and you be shown as an active member again. You can also use the "Newsletter Subscription" link in the my "workspace" area to remove yourself from the Photo.net newsletter mailing list.<br /> <br /> You can remove any gallery images you have uploaded before you do this, but you cannot remove any of your forum postings. Why? Well, the photo.net owners/administrators decided long ago that they wanted to create the largest and best photography knowledge base on the internet. Deleting and removing posts can turn a very useful thread into a confusing mess that is useless for future users.<br /> a Which is why the following is in the Photo.net Terms of Use which everyone must agree to in order to be a photo.net member:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.photo.net/terms-of-use" rel="nofollow nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.photo.net/terms-of-use</a><br /> <br /> "...You also grant us a perpetual non-exclusive worldwide royalty-free license to use, reproduce, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display your User Content on the Site and to promote the Site..."<br /> <br /> That being said, you can request a name change on your account. You must be able to log into your account to do this, if you have lost your login info there is no way to prove the account is yours and you cannot have access to it.<br /> <br /> Josh<br /> Photo.net Chief Admin &<br /> Director of Community<br /> <br /> <br /> From: <br /> Subscriber: No<br /> Category: COPY<br /> Subject: remove me off your site.<br /> ---------<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you again. I asked a while back that my content be removed and its still up, I had no Idea it would be public. Could you please remove my name at least. I have a new job and Ii don't like this on.

<h5 data-ft="{"> </h5>

<a tabindex="-1" type="" href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photo.net%2Fterms-of-use&h=rAQEeh4Im&s=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" data-ft="{"><img src="https://fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net/rsrc.php/v2/y4/r/-PAXP-deijE.gif" alt="" /></a>

 

 

<strong>Terms and Conditions of Use</strong>

photo.net

What we want people to accomplish on photo.net; licensing of uploaded material

 

 

 

[not_paid]

<p>well at least they changed my name.</p>