robert_harvey4 Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 <p>I recently bought a Dell U2410 and a Spyder3 Pro. Have tried numerous times to calibrate using the Spyder, but always seems to have a pinkish tint. Could some one help me with the calibration of this monitor?</p> <p>I'm using Windows 7, have loaded the Dell driver for the U2410 and set the resolution.<br> At first what should the settings on the monitor be before using Spyder?<br> And if there is a pinkish tint after calibration, how to remove it?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_m Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 <p>usually, they want you restore the monitor to factory default or equalize the colors as a pre-calibration step.</p> <p>Also, I dont know if your software allows you to set the CIE x/y coordinates (vs. just a nominal color temp) which is very handy in getting rid of color casts like that. </p> <p>Are you making sure to let the monitor warm up for at least 30 minutes before calibbration?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 <p>Altering the white point on the green/magenta axis requires some control in the opposite direction of yellow/blue (color temp) axis. That is usually accomplished by altering the x/y values as Howard suggested. But does the software provide such controls? <img src="http://digitaldog.net/files/LinesOfCCT.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="559" /></p> Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_harvey4 Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 <p>I did set to factory defaults and warmed up for more than 30 minutes. The software with Spyder3 Pro does not have those controls. <br> After calibrating and if a color tint is visible can I use the monitors color adjustments, hue, saturation, etc., to eliminate the tint?<br> Also at the start I have had the monitor "Preset Modes" at Standard, is this taking advantage of the wide color gamete or should I set it at "Adobe RGB"?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_duarte Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 <p>It's interesting but I tried to calibrate a new U2410 with the i1display2 and I also got a pink color cast every time. No matter what I tried I couldn't get a proper profile for this monitor. It now seems that something has been completely screwed up since I can't get a proper profile on my old monitor (HP w2207) either - I keep getting a pink color cast. What gives?</p> <p>Paul</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_smith4 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <p>For wide gamut monitors (including my NEC p221) the Eye One doesn't seem to be able to properly set the white point itself. See if you can just get the software to use the native white point or otherwise keep the Eye One from trying to adjust the white point at all. </p> <p>Not that this will help you but with NEC and Spectraview you can manually correct the white point by eye. I had to set a color temp of 6964K to get it to look neutral to me (like 6500K should be.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_burton Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <p>I was never able to use the advanced mode on my i1display2 with my U2410. However, when I used the easy mode, it worked just fine. I am not thrilled about it, but it's better than nothing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <p>Again, the issue of a pink (magenta) or green cast display isn’t going to be corrected with a WP setting (that’s a blue-yellow axis). Native may help and in fact is a more ideal setting on non high bit panels to reduce banding. But banding is less an issue than a screwed up white point. Depending on the software and colorimeter combo, you may have to settle for less than ideal. </p> Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <blockquote> <p>Again, the issue of a pink (magenta) or green cast display isn’t going to be corrected with a WP setting (that’s a blue-yellow axis).</p> </blockquote> <p>So is this a color table or LUT issue that's been screwed up by the colorimeter and/or software? If green/magenta is the less than ideal state, that's not only ideal but dysfunctional. Paying $200 or so for a calibration package that doesn't fix this is down right idiotic. Why aren't they addressing this?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <p>I can’t answer that question Tim. I think its kind of dumb to sell a piece of hardware and less than useful software for a lower price than another product in the family that has better software and identical hardware. There’s no question in my mind that given the right functionality, the same hardware is going to correct these issues. I think some companies are confused whether they are a software or hardware company at heart. </p> <p>The argument the add functionality is too confusing to newer users doesn’t wash. One can have an Easy and Advanced mode. If they are going to sell two products at big differences in price, at least both should provide the functionality to get the job done correctly. Then pile on other stuff (trending, gamut maps etc) for the geeks who will spend more $$ for more buttons. </p> Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_smith4 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 <p>In the NEC Spectraview II Software you can balance white by specifying color temperature or C.I.E. X Y. The latter appears to be a color plot that let you visually balance the monitor's white point over a range of colors, and does not seem to be limited to one axis (Magenta-Yellow or Green-Red) as I used it to counteract the magenta cast I was getting. I also had it set primaries to "factory primaries" instead of measuring it and that also helped things.</p> <p>For others with software that's not as flexible as Spectraview, have you tried the open-source Argyll CMS? It works with a variety of hardware and seems to offer decent control. I haven't used it to calibrate a monitor myself: http://www.argyllcms.com/</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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