geri_brandimarte2 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 I am in the process of deciding on a MF camera. One of the things I would like to do is some macrophotography. Having no experience with this type of photography I am curious how important TTL flash will be in this effort. Also, will leaf shutter lenses be more beneficial for this type of photography (for the added flash sync speed). Thank you, Geri Brandimarte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 TTL flash for close-up is somewhat problematic because of varying reflectivity of the subjects. Think of the difference between reflected and incident metering with ambient light. Leaf shutters help a lot because they offer much higher sync speed than focal plan shutters. Example. By the sunny 16 rule, with ISO 100 film the appropriate exposure is 1/100 @ f/16. @ 1:1, that translates to 1/25 @ f/16. If ambient is much less than three stops down from the flash, you're in trouble. So, if your focal plane shutter syncs flash @ 1/30, you'll need to be @ f/45 to eliminate ghosting from flash. If you're not too fussy, f/32. Not a good aperture to use at 1:1. At 1/60, you're still in trouble. There are three cures. Leaf shutter that syncs faster; neutral density filter in front of the lens and turn the flash up; slower film. The ND approach will work, but is obnoxious. Velvia or TP and pray, may work for those who can stand 'em, not an option for those who don't. NOW do you understand why those of us who shot KM 135 closeup out of doors with flash were so unhappy when it was discontinued? And many of us had flash sync @ 1/250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_cochran Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 The situation where a leaf shutter's high sync speed is useful is when you have lots of ambient light, and you want to shoot relatively wide open, and balance ambient and flash. That's not likely to be an issue with macro photography, because you're usually stopped way down, and your flash can be placed close enough to the subject that it easily overpowers ambient light. <p> TTL metering is useful for macrophotography, probably even more so than non-macro photography, because it saves having to compensate for bellows extension factor. But compensating for bellows factor is not extraordinarily difficult (open up one stop at 1:2, two stops at 1:1). The best lit macro photos, like non-macro photos, come by getting the flash off the camera's hot shoe, and bouncing or diffusing the light, so be sure your flash setup allows this. It can be more expensive to take TTL flashes off the hot shoe than non-TTL flashes. <p> Personally, I find it's easy and very reliable to use an ordinary manually adjustable flash on an ordinary PC sync cord, combined with an incident flash meter and manual camera settings. 12" white reflector or umbrella to bounce the light off can be very useful, or a small softbox can also be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick roadnight cotswolds Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Richard: Yes, TTL helps a great deal, as do leaf shutters. I use 2 Metz 70s, one close to the camera as a fill in, and the main light away from the camera, in TTL wireless slave mode. In the confines of a macro set-up reflectors work better than in a larger studio. This works, even with difficult subjects like diamonds. Ideal for butterflies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm1 Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Richard, after experimentation and calculation I've decided that f/16 is about as is safe to stop down when working near 1:1, so ambient light isn't, at least for me, of more theoretical than practical concern. And this after thinking hard about and fiddling with the tradeoff between sharpness in the plane of best focus and depth of field. I'm using reasonably good lenses (105/2.8 MF MicroNikkor on 135; 100/6.3 Neupolar and 100/6.3 Luminar on 2.25 x 3.25, Reichert beats Zeiss), so I don't think that they're an issue. Much below 1:1, stopping down is of course still an option. Above 3:1, wide open is best with the lenses I've tried. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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