western_isles Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>I am a fan of prime lens and am thinking of pairing the 50mm 1.8D with a 1.4 or a 1.7 Nikkor teleconverter. This will save on weight as I already have a variety of kit and my back is getting old! It will also save some on the cost of yet another lens.<br> Will these teleconverters work ok with the 50mm 1.8D?<br> Thanks in advance.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>You can get an 85mm f1.8 used for a little bit more than the cost of a Nikon TC.</p> <p>As you are a prime user, the combination you are considering would deliver 'sub' prime results.?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsnow Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>I agree...buy the 85mm f/1.8 rather than the TC. TCs are meant to be used with longer focal length lenses and would be very awkward if attached to a 50mm lens. additionally, the 85mm f/1.8 isn't much heavier than the 1.4x TC (only about 4 oz).</p> <p>Nikon does not list the 50mm f/1.8 on their compatibility chart so my guess is that the rear element would be damaged if you try to attach a TC to the lens. </p> <p>RS</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>The current Nikon TCs will not fit either, the rear element of both 50 f/1.8 and 85 f/1.8 are too close to the mount, and the TC14 and TC17 have protruding front elements. I am quite sure you will damage an element on one side (and for that reason, I won't try it, but I happen to have the mentioned lenses and TCs). And that is disregarding the fact that these current TCs only work with AF-S lenses and without modying them won't even accept AF-D lenses.</p> <p>Depending on your camera (if you want metering): if you can live without AF, some older Ai and AiS lenses are lovely light and small (f.e. 105 f/2.5, 200 f/4), and will easily outperform a more modern prime with TC. And they can be found for very little money.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksta Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>Hi<br> Nikon recommends a minimum focal length of 100mm to use a TC.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stank Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>Just for kicks, I had tried this with my 50mm f1.8 AF and a Kenko Pro 300 1.4x. It fits, it works but there is degradation of image quality and you loose about an f-stop.<br> Stan</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>Actually I believe the TC14a and TC201 are both compatible with the 50mm f1.8. But, again, the 85mm f1.8 is the best way to go (IMO).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>When I was a pentax shooter, I had a 1.5X tele-converter that I used, in a pinch, with my 200mm telephoto lens. I tried it on my 50mm for grins.</p> <p>ugh.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CvhKaar Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>If you don't have a problem with MF, I recently bought a 100mm ai-s e series lens for around Euro 60,- ( US $80,- something) from fleebay, which is just a little bit bigger than a 50mm, lightweight, and performs very nicely...<br> I guess they will be even cheaper around in the US on ebay ...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western_isles Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>Thanks to all for the feedback.<br> Have now looked at the 85 1.8 and it does look very good. I also have the 85 PC lens so I am now in a quandry. The PC is manual focus which is a bit of a bind for faster action shots. Will probably go for the 85 1.8.<br> Thanks again to everyone for their input.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>I have both the 85mm f/1.8 and the 85mm f/2.8 T/S. As you know the T/S is a specialty lens which is great for macros. It's just too heavy for regular photography, though I have tried it at times. The 85 f/1.8 is very nice for portraits, candids and parties as it doesn't take up much space and is relatively unobtrusive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 <p>You mentioned autofocus. As others pointed out, the Nikon TC-14E II, 17E, and 20E III have front elements that won't let them mount on a 50mm f1.8.</p> <p>The Kenko PRO-300 will mount, but its optical path is too narrow for an f1.8 lens, it will vignette at any aperture faster than about f2.2. So, you have to stop the lens down to f2.2, and then a 1.4x converter leaves you with, effectively, a 75mm f3.1 of fairly poor optical quality. I'm with the others who recommend an 85mm f1.8. 1.5 stops faster, sharper, and with better contrast than a normal on a TC.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 <p>This is very weird....<br> Just 1 hour ago I was putting my bags together and just for fun and see if they worked I tried a Kenko 1.4x with my 50 f/1.8. <br> Mechanically speaking it works just fine and the few pictures I took they look ok on the camera.... sorry but I haven't downloaded and checked on my computer. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem_svizec Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 <p>There is an old AI Vivitar 2x macro focusing teleconverter that was made for 50mm primes, with built-in variable extension helical. At max extension it goes to 1:1 macro, and with min extension it is just 2x TC with inf focus. I've chipped it so that I can use it with the Tamron 60mm macro (G) for some more magnification, working distance or background blur. <br> Now the funny part, I also put the 18-200VR on it, and it improves the resolution slightly with no expected horrible side-effects (like loss of contrast and CA). I wouldn't really call that useful though ;)<br> Matching lenses and TCs appears to be sort of witchcraft. I think there is not much point in being a fan of primes if there is no advantage actually. You are quite likely to find a TC that works, but the combination is not likely to be on par with a decent prime with the resultant FL, likely also not with a good zoom. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 <p>The old Vivitar macro converter is optically very good, but the Nikon version has a design flaw. The Ai coupler ring is made of a crappy plastic that "grows" over time and will eventually (more sooner than later IME) bind up.</p> <p>I made a replacement brass ring some time ago and mine still works superbly, but unless you have machining abilities it's probably best to stay away from them.</p> <p>I have to agree that using a converter on a 50mm lens is a bit pointless when you can get an 85mm f/2 that's almost as light and compact as a converter, but with almost two stops aperture advantage and zero pincushion distortion.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem_svizec Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>> The old Vivitar macro converter is optically very good, but the Nikon version has a design flaw. The Ai coupler ring is made of a crappy plastic that "grows" over time and will eventually (more sooner than later IME) bind up.<br> Tnx for the comment, I see the one I got is no exception then. But I think chipping is an easier solution, plus it works for the smaller bodies. $30 dandelion chip, two drops of epoxy glue and an hour of time, no grinding or disassembly needed. I should repeat this is mainly meant for macro exercises, not for the OP's idea ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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