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fredus

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Ok,

 

I've read tons of magazines, website and of course this forum ! These

are my 2 choices for my new Elan 7e (I will take mostly portrait

(close portrait and street portrait) and landscapes ... I already

have a 420EX)

 

Choice 1: (Estimated price: $600)

Canon 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 USM

Canon 100-300 f/4.5-5.6 USM

Canon 50 f/1.8 USM

 

Choice 2: (Estimated price: $780)

Canon 28 f/2.8

Canon 50 f/1.8 USM

Canon 85 f/1.8 USM

Canon 100-300 f/4.5-5.6 USM

 

What do you think ?? any better option ??

 

Thanks for your help !

 

Fred

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I have your "choice 2." However, I used the zoom lens before and simply don't like it. The 28mm, 50mm, and 85mm is a traditional combo that will work fine for your purpose. The 50mm and 85mm lenses will be the main options for portraits, while all three can be used for landscapes.

 

If you have $780 to spend and decide not to get the zoom, you may actually get the Canon 50mm f1.4 USM instead. It renders the background blur with a much more pleasant look than the 50mm f1.8.

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24-85 zoom (will cover the landscapes) or a wide angle prime, 50 1.8 and 85 1.8. You will find the 85 1.8 far, far more useful than the 100-300 zoom for portraits. There just isn't any comparison. For portraits you need speed and the zoom just doesn't have it. Portraits also tend to be enlarged so you want the sharpest lens you can afford (again, the 85 wins hands down).
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Fred,

 

I too have been getting close to my final decision

 

I think the best way to go is...

 

canon 24-85 f3.5 to 4.5 usm ($300)and the 70-200 f/4 L($600.)

 

Its a little more expensive but from my research this is definately the way to go on a medium budget. (I currently own the 50 1.8 ($65))

 

If you use filters, these two lenses are both 67 mm

 

I am by no means a professional, but I am actually going to buy these lenses.

 

the 70-200 should be great for your portraits(youll want a filter pobably because the L series lenses will be too good)

 

If any one thinks if wrong let us know before I purchase mine too.

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Personally, I prefer the 24 and 35 focal lengths over the 28 + 50 ones but this combo is a bit more expensive.

 

I must say that I don't really understand your tele choice. If you want a good and not so expensive telezoom then the 70-200/4 L is probably the best choice. The 100-300/5.6 L is second best. However, a combination of 135/2.8 SF + 200/2.8 + 1.4X will give you much better quality, as expected from primes. They are also faster.

 

Another thought is a used non-IS 70-200/2.8 L to replace the 85/1.8 + 135/2.8 SF + 200/2.8.

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Chris' advice is pretty good.

 

I own the 24-85 and 70-200 F4L, and they're an amazing combo. The 24-85 is a very good lens (although some samples seem to exhibit excessive vignetting, but that's not a problem I have had with mine), and if you stop it down to F8-F11, it is very sharp indeed, although obviously has more distortion than primes.

 

The 70-200 is as good as zoom lenses get, and without making big enlargements, you'd be hard pressed to tell the results apart from some pretty decent primes. Of course, the 85 F1.8, 100 F2, 135 F2L and 200 F2.8L will be better, but they'd cost a great deal more.

 

If it's a little hard to swallow the purchase of both lenses at once, think about getting the 70-200F4L and the 50 F1.8, and then save to get a 24, 28 or 35mm prime. Whilst the 85 F1.8 is a superb lens, I think you will feel less need for it if you have the 70-200.

 

I have been considering what to do with my 24-85, since it lives with a 20mm F2.8, 70-200 F4L and 300 F4L IS. It is the weakest link, but before I can say "goodbye" to it, I need a decent replacement. I can't decide between 24 F2.8, 35 F2, 50 F1.8/1.4 combo or the new 24-70 F2.8L. If the primes were updated with USM, maybe it would be easier... However, since I can't afford either option right now, I'll use what I've got, and I'll be happy with that.

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Skip the 24-85, in handheld candid portraiture the slow aperture limits subject isolation and induces blur from slower shutter speeds.

I have the 28/2.8, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 (along with 20-35/3.5-4.5, 28-135-IS and 70-200/3.8IS)and recommend these primes highly as economical but sharp primes for your intended use. I suggest you also look for a 200/2.8 to round it out, rather than the 100-300 zoom.

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Fred,

 

If you want a little more length then look at the 100 f/2 lens instead of the 85 1.8. Try and find a zoom (maybe go to a camera store) and put it at 100 and see if that will work for you. If it doesn't then I would move to the 80-200 f/4 everyone else has been suggesting. Just for your info here is a link that looks at the 85 and 100:

 

http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/85_100_135/index.htm

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Didn't have time to read all the replies, so I hope I am not repeating someone else's remarks. I prefer the 24mm end for lanscapes, too. That extra 4mm makes a big difference. The newer EF 50/1.8 has a plastic mount. Something to avoid. Older one is better. EF 50/1.4 or 50/2.5 Macro are even better, sharper choices (but about $150 more). Ever tried Tamron SP 24-135mm? A good competitor for your money, light wieght and has a good coverage range, too.
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Fred,

 

If it's a little hard to swallow the purchase of both lenses at once, think about getting the 70-200F4L and the 50 F1.8, and then save to get a 24, 28 or 35mm prime. Whilst the 85 F1.8 is a superb lens, I think you will feel less need for it if you have the 70-200.

 

Youll be under 700 and You wont be disappointed!

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"but how am I going to handle street portrait from 10 to 20 meters without a 100-300"

 

IMHO, 30-60 feet away (sorry, I can't think in metric), is not taking portraits, but just taking anoymous snap shots. I don't have any moral objection to that, but most good portraits are taken with with full knowlege and consent of the subject, and by getting close and interacting with your subjects (not that easy to do). The 100mm F2 USM is nice since its fast, sharp, not that expensive, has 2x magnification but is about the same size as a 50mm lens (a big white L zoom is more intimidating). If you check out Jeff Spirer's work (he is a member of photo.net), most of his street portraits are shot with a WA lens.

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