peter_ochmann Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Visiting Hasselblad at the Photokina, I noticed a big difference between user's demand and Hasselblad's offers: more or less no people wanted to see the "multivision show" about the new H1, most wanted infos about the so called V-system. But Hasselblad didn't show ANYTHING new but changed the name of the system. Byebye, Hasselblad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_bunnik Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Well, maybe there is no news this year for the V system and the H1 is the only new product. So much fuss over a new system, my God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_chong Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 <i>no people wanted to see the "multivision show" about the new H1</i><BR><BR>Not surprising, since who would want to sit through such a thing except for brand cultists. And these same fans are too busy crying and ripping their hair out, screaming that the apocalypse is upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Yea Bob, I wish those people would just give me their mentally burdensome Hasselblad gear to be free of its' taunting presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff.grant Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Me too! I'd even pay the freight costs to help ease the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfrey Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 It seems only amongst Leica and Hasselblad fanciers that anything the company produces which departs even a single iota from the Traditional Goodness that the owners like causes much gnashing of teeth, wailing about the End of the World, etc. sheesh. Godfrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabophoto Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Peter, I saw about one minute of the 'multivision show' on the H1 and found it utterly boring. In fact I don´t see anything really interesting in the H1 system. There nothing it can do (except high-speed flash sync) that the Contax 645 cannot, and the Contax even has Zeiss glass. Rumor has it the Fuji is going take over Hasselblad soon. Carsten http://www.cabophoto.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_drew4 Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Yawn . . . sameold . . . sameold.Hasselblad will sell its brand eventually, just like Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Rollei, Minox, Voigtlander, and I'm sure I missed a "few" others.Wait 'til Leica sells its brand! Whoa baby! "Show me the money!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfrey Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Isn't Leica currently owned in majority by Hermes? [grin] Godfrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watts Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 <i>Isn't Leica currently owned in majority by Hermes?</i><br><br>No. As far as I know, Hermes have a minority stake (something in the order of 30%).<br><br>As heretical as it may sound to some, I can't help but think that Hasselblad would benefit greatly from being taken over by Fuji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_diekwisch1 Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Interestingly though, Rollei has been bought back by its employees - reminds me of Harley. Even more interesting, at least in light of this debate, Hasselblad is currently going through a major financial struggle and I believe is looking for buyers - Rollei has been one of them (rumors). This might explain many of Hasselblad's recent actions. From my own point of view some of Hasselblad's move make a lot of sense. While there is a place for classic equipment and Hasselblad is doing a masterful job in terms of craftsmanship and PR, in the bigger picture Hasselblad has missed the boat for a while. Fuji on the other hand easily fits with Hasselblad's dedication for quality. Think about the Xpan. I am personally very imprssed with my GSW690 and just from people I am talking to the GX680 also has a very high standard. I think it all makes perfectly sense and honestly I wish it works out. In fact, the H1 is a great concept, if it wasn't that expensive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian_bratt Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Peter, I did notice one very interesting point about the H1 - the lenses are made by Fuji! > While it is a Hasselblad camera, the HC lenses are made by Fuji, based on Hasselblad specifications and have Hasselblad shutters built in them. After all these years of paying mega bucks for Zeiss glass, suddenlyit seems Fuji is good enough for the latest and greatest. The panoramic was the first sign, now this. IMHO this seems a major direction change, maybe Hassy is feeling the strain and they just can't justify the cost differential over other MF manufacturers anymore? Best regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas welinder Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 When Hasselblad started there V-system Zeiss glass was THE best you could get. Today when Hasselblad has launched a new system, Zeiss glass has lost a lot of its magic. If Fuji makes lenses as good (or even better) than Zeiss it should be obvious to choose Fuji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_a_k_h_i_n_d_e_r Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 I don't think Fuji is just being allowed to bring its quality to Hasselblad! It might be the other way: Fuji is making Hasselblad lensesas per Hasselblad standard. Look at an Xpan. Its lenses. And look at a Fuji 680III and its lenses.Just compare these two cameras (and lenses), and yes they are twovery different beasts, you shall find visible difference in quality! Fuji 680 lenses' aperture ring is wobbly! It has no stops. Xpan lens'ring stops at 1/2 stop. Beautiful aperture blades. I am not talking of Fuji lenses optical quality-- I think that is what Fuji brings to Hasselblad. Mechanical quality I hope not! I love a GX680III, but does its mechanical aspects lure me-- NO. However I am very surprised with Xpan lenses! I have used only the 45mm and the 90mm! The only thing thatreminds me of Fuji on the xpan camera is its film-door knob. Same as in680' back! The point I am making is, I think Hasselblad has retained its qualitycontrol over Fuji Xpan, and I hope that is the way for the 645 camera too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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