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[mangomills]

<p>I have gotten all the way up to the point where the issues are the darkness but the colors are at least the same. However, I cannot upload the correct icc profiles as "administrator" to solve the problem as there are no paper profiles on Epson's website to match this printer. I do see the correct profiles (ultra premium glossy for artisan 810) in the "print space" profile box in PS 7, but when I either select Adobe RGB 2.2 or ICM off on my printer, I get the reddish or darkness respectively, but color-matched results. Seems the ICM off is best for color but I will need to compensate with curves to lighten each image a bit. Patrick, you are a whiz at this and I bow to your better knowledge but I may be helpless :(</p>

[Matt Laur]

<p>J: do you mean that you don't have administrative access to the computer?</p>

[mangomills]

<p>Yes, I do. It's my computer and mine alone. I just don't have any new paper profiles to upload as an option on the epson website. As I said, they all seem to be there but dark.</p>

[Matt Laur]

<p>You mean that the links on the Epson web site are dark and unusuble, or that the files you've downloaded to your machine are? Or do you mean that you have installed them, but can't invoke them during the printing process?</p>

[mangomills]

<p>OK, Matt & Patrick, first let me thank you for helping me out with an issue it seems everyone has but in different ways. I have followed this thread along as best as possible but my hardware is slightly different, obviously. When I installed the new Epson printer, all the ICC profiles for paper (I use ultra premium glossy) were installed as well and are available to use with my PS7 when I do the color management, no problems there. However, when I follow the advice to keep my PS7 working space at Adobe RGB (btw in the "color setting" screen in my PS7 I am set at US Prepress defaults) but change the print space (still talking about PS) to match the paper profile, and turn the printer color management off, the colors now match but are dareker than the screen version. Do I just need to keep playing with all the different paper profiles? I read if you trick the system and put in glossy instead of ultra glossy, they might come out lighter?! </p>

[patricklavoie]

<p>J,</p>

<p>1_in the color preference (color setting) of Photoshop you leave everyhting at is default setting or close to.. heres a screen capture for you.</p>

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[patricklavoie]

<p>2_when you print in your print preference you apply those settings.. or the one that talk about your paper choice.</p>

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[patricklavoie]

<p>3_and finaly in your epson driver you make sure of that...</p><div></div>

[patricklavoie]

<p>4_if your monitor is corectly calibrated ( i use gamma 2.2, 6500k and 110 on my NEC 2690 ) what you see is what you get.</p>

<p>but in case of, heres a little trick to help you to remove a bit of density overall your print, that should also help you get closer on any media you use, epson, commercial printer or external lab...</p>

<p>before sending my image to print i many time just apply this little curve that help getting more subtle details..</p>

<p>a_make a adjustment curve</p>

<p>b_i put my curve to pigment instead of light when i work.. i prefer that</p>

<p>c_put a point in the middle of the curve</p>

<p>d_enter in the box below call input 50, and in the box call output 45..</p>

<p>e_press OK</p>

<p>f_its like removing let say 5% overall density and many time that will help you a lot with most of the paper you will use to get this little extra detail in the darkess part of your print.</p>

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[patricklavoie]

<p>voila. now you know everything you need to know about how to print.</p>

[mangomills]

<p>Thanks again Patrick! I tried the curves adjust and it was great as long as I kept the profile in PS matching the paper - when I put it to match the source, it went dark again. Looks like this will do the trick! Love this forum - such a big help, now I'm all set until I upgrade to CS4 or 5 and will be in a world of hurt again :) Enjoy your weekend!</p>