elizabeth_swarm Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 <p>i bought an antique camera in user condition and are now looking for film. its 2 1/4 X 2 1/4 in size. I am wondering if it is the same as 120 in size? Do you think it would be hard to find and how much do you think it will be?<br> thanks alot.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernest-b Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 <p>Your 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 camera does use size 120 film.</p> <p>If there's a professional dealer nearby, you may be able to buy the film locally.</p> <p>If not, there are many, many sources online. As a representative sample of prices, here is the link to B&H's current lineup of size 120 (negative) films:</p> <p>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=2545&N=4288589726+4289268856</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 <p>Note that 620 is also 2-1/4" x 2-1/4". That isn't made in the normal way anymore, although there are places that turn down 120 spools (with film) to 620 size. Kodak was the primary proponent of 620 film.<br> As for processing, most mini-labs can process 120 color negative (C-41) film, whether they know how or are willing to do so is another matter...<br> Note that it's not cheap -- you get 12 exposures for the same amount of film (and same or more money) than a 35mm 36-exposure roll. But, if it's a good camera, it can give a very different look to your pictures.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernest-b Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 <p>Elizabeth, John is correct. I answered too quickly.</p> <p>Is your camera a Kodak? Kodak cameras manufactured since 1932 that produce 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 images, were all--without exception, I think--sized for 620 film. (Although a few other camera makers also made 620 cameras, they are few and far between. Most other makers simply disregarded the 620 film size. Even Kodak stopped selling 620 film in 1995.)</p> <p>"620 film" differs from "120 film" only in the size of the film spools used--620 film spools are narrower and have thinner end-shields. The size and spacing of the film itself, and of the backing paper, are identical.</p> <p>There are many archived Photo.net threads describing how to "re-roll" 120 film onto 620 spools. Or you can pay a bit extra per roll, and buy (from online sources) film on plastic spools that have already been "machine-trimmed" down to 620 size, ready to use. The least expensive source for 620 film that I'm aware of is Blue Moon Camera, a highly recommended dealer:</p> <p>http://www.bluemooncamera.com/inventory.php?menuID=4&catID=500&deptID=557</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauren_macintosh Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p>Be-aware they them selfs state that some of their spools will not work in certain cameras<br> so read their info carefully: [blue Moon ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_dake Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p>Elizabeth,</p> <p>What camera did you end up getting?<br> The Yashica?</p> <p>Post some pictures of it and the results, we would be interested to see.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p>thanks you everyone for the responses. I ended up getting a yashica-matc antique camera. I will definitly look for local shops that will sell the film I need (120). I am very excited to try to take some pictures and increase my learning. I will post some pictures below.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p> <img id="i_vv4-34" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/24/!Bwpt4twCGk~$(KGrHqIOKiwEwPj6otpsBMJ-cJ7YEQ~~_35.JPG" alt="" /> <img id="i_vv4-34" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!Bwpt3m!Bmk~$(KGrHqUOKkEEwRMH-EyRBMJ-cGk9mg~~_35.JPG" alt="Yashica-Mat 2 1/4 X 2 1/4 TLR Camera - Great User!" /><br> <img id="i_vv4-34" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!Bwpt5wwBWk~$(KGrHqEOKj8Ew(7fMfrdBMJ-cNSuhg~~_35.JPG" alt="" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p>What do you all think of the camera?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 <p>Very nice. It looks to have been well cared for. BTW, if none of the local shops stock 120, you can order it and get it within a few days from places like Freestyle, B&H, and Adorama. You made a good choice. If you decide to shoot black & white, consider learning to process the film yourself and then scan the negatives. Tri-X or TMAX 400 are good films to start with. Ilford HP5+ and Delta 400 are good as well. If home processing is not an option, the Kodak Black & White Plus film is a C41 process film that any lab that does C41 color in 120 can also process. Most labs can scan your images to CD.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8281 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>It looks really nice. What did you spend for it? Does it have the Yashicar or Yashinon lens? The Yashinon lens is the more preferred lens. I have an EM model and my wife has a 124G. Very fun to play with. Do you have a leather case for it? You can download <a href="http://www.butkus.org/chinon/yashica/yashicamat_m/yashicamat_m-splash.htm">the manual at Butkus website</a> if you don't all ready have one. Do you plan on shooting color or black and white? I really like the film I get from <a href="http://www.freestylephoto.biz/c403-Black-and-White-Film-120-and-220-size">Freestyle Photographic</a>. I would also recommend processing the black and white film yourself. Besides scanning, you can make snapshots by just contact printing the negatives.<br /> Lots of luck with it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>i spent 40.00 dollars on it. Does that sound like a good price? I dont know What i plan on shooting it as (color or black and white), what do you think would turn out the best or be the easyist for a beginer?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>What is a good manufactuar to look for?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo5 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>$40 is a great price. The very first twin lens I bought was a Yashica 12 for $30 from a neighbor. It worked great until I dropped it... So the lesson here is, don't carry your camera without the strap around your neck!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo5 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>Elizabeth, I use a Rolleiflex. I find Rollei to be the best twin lens camera ever made. In fact, they were the pioneer of the twin lens format. Other people really like Mamiya, because you can change lenses. Yashica is a favorite because of low price and high reliability. A Yashica 124G is a classic that will never die. For me, I use a Rolleiflex because my father and uncle had Rolleicord cameras, so I grew up watching them look down into this funny looking camera. A decent Rolleicord can be found for as little as $70 in working condition, a Rolleiflex for as little as $120 in working condition. I paid $115 for my 1949 Rolleiflex X 20 years ago. Now it is worth more than twice that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8281 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 <p>Color or black and white? I think Kodak and Fuji are both great for color. I have not used Fuji in b&w though. I shoot a lot of the Arista.edu ultra that I get from Freestyle Photographic. It is supposed to be re-branded Foma film. The Kodak b&w is really good too. But as I stated earlier, the b&w you either have to do yourself or you can have it sent out but that might take a bit of time. You could always learn, it is fairly easy. You only really need about $100 worth of stuff to get started. If you are interested, I will give you the list that I came up with, and that is including chemistry.<br> The Rollies are nice, I have gone through 2 of them, a rolliecord and a rollieflex. The surprising thing is the Yashicas have a brighter view finder.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_swarm Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 <p>Thanks you everybody for your responses. I will definitly look into your advice!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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