trex1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I have both of these wonderful cameras. Each of which I paid about 300 dollars for. The Hassie is well used, but in very nice shape. It came with a 12 and a 24 back. I really, really like this camera a lot. The Bronica came with the 80mm PS and is like new. It also came with a 150mm S lens that is very nice.<p> I love the operation of the Hassie, but not the weight. I love the operation, and lightness of the Bronica, but not the mirror flap, which shakes the camera when you fire it, unlike the very smooth Hassie mirror flap (has brakes, I believe).<p>I would really like to hear what you would do and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_n1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>before going further...<br> what do you like in pictures taken with each of them?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny_jaques Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>Well Darius, for me that requires very little deliberation. <strong>Keep the Hasselblad</strong> . With so many superb lenses easily affordable now, it's a system to build on. The EL mechanism is built to last. Soon you could add a 500 C/CM body to the system. Then you can quickly put together the outfit best suited to the task.<br /> So, sell the Bronica. Because someday when you <em>do</em> have a 500C to replace it, you won't look back.</p> <p>Cheers, Jenny.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>You are in a close to unique position in having used and being able to assess the results from two cameras that do pretty much the same sort of job. Whose opinion is going to be as good as your own? </p> <p>Can you tell a difference between the photographs? Have you run a side by side test? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hi David, I read many of your posts. Indeed it is a tough choice. The reality is that I can't keep both even to run tests. I need to liquidate one, pretty quickly, to fund a move. My inclination is to keep the blad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>In which case which do you think you could sell most easily and for the most money?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>I would think the Bronica... What do you suppose a mint SQB, and I mean like new, is worth? Or the 150S lens, the 3.5, with some dust in it, but otherwise perfect. No one seems to want an old ELM, especially with a lens with scratches and fogging in it..<br> The SQB is so much more nimble, quicker to focus, the 150 is small, light, fast and focuses closer than the expensive hassy equivalent.<br> You can see why I am having trouble making up my mind. <br> I really like the solidity and feel of the Hassy more than the Bronica, but the Bronica has BIG advantages over the Hassy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>Apples vs Oranges. The ELM has the added weight and bulk of the motor/batteries. An SQ or 500 series is much more usable IMHO. The EL series were great for studio use, but were a pain to carry around all day.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>Not too many completed listings on eBay for the SQ-B and the onlty one successfully sold this month went for almost $500. There's more around for sale now though , again at a price of c $500 for the kit. Seems that there are a few bodies around though and some potential buyers will vote for putting together their own kit from components.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>People shy away from SQ-Bs for the perceived lack of features relative to the SQ-Ai--something I don't get. I picked up a mint SQ-B kit+speedwinder for just<500 last spring. With MLU, vibration is a non-issue and I've never seen a shot blurred by mirror slap on the Bronica. I'd sell the Hassie due to age and reduced utility--those things are immense compared to the Bronica. Surely there's a drooling Hassie lover waiting to buy your ELM?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>Reduced utility. Maybe I am just being sentimental about the Hassy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever_max Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 <p>Keep the Hasselblad and sell the Bronica. With the money from the complete Bronica set, you can buy a 500CM, a 501C or a 503CX and have money left over. Getting a 503 CXi or a 503 CW would be redundant because you already have a very good motor drive camera.</p> <p>In the future the Bronica will become harder to service since they are no longer made. The supply of Hasselblads and Hasselblad lenses if very great and the prices of the used equipment has never been lower. Furthermore, if you later want to go digital, there are several choices for the Hasselblad.</p> <p>Steve</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 The problem is that whichever I end up selling, the money will go to bills, and not more gear. Also, the chance of finding another mint SQ is not so high. The chance of getting another Hassy in probably much better shape than the one I have now is quite high. It's really an impossible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I meant to add, that for shooting, the Hasselblad seems to be much more intuitive, and flexible. The motordrive makes a huge difference. I can take picture after picture of my daughter while focusing on taking the shot, and not messing with the camera. That is the real reason I am so conflicted. To look at the Hassy it is this unwieldy steel behemoth, and the choice should be easy, but I really think the design is so good that even for such an ancient camera c.1980, it presents a real alternative to a brand new SQB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_zheng1 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 <p>You WERE doing apples vs oranges. one of Bronica machine that matches Hass ELM is SQM. So if fast shoot with motor driver is so important for you, you have made your decision alreaday. You should focus on how those machines work for you, not the name and how you feel them. SQB is built for light weight with basic functions that you already mentioned, if this is not one for you, sell it since recently its price increase dramatically. You can sell your unit for around $500. I bought my set -mint sq-ai, with wlf, 45 degree prism, 40mm ps, 80mm ps, 150mm ps, 2 120-i, 2 220-i, one polaroid back and extensible lens hood for $750 two years ago on ebay. So now is real good time for you to sell your SQB.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 In terms of age, reliability, practical useability, and any number of other factors, the Bronica is easily the winner, but the fact is, that for me, the Hassy is more fun to use. It's kind of like the choice of buying a brand new Toyota for $3000 or an old Mercedes for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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