sd_woods Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>I was not sure whether to post this in Street, or Portraits, or Nikon. In the end, I decided that since I'd be using Nikon equipment for both, and this question was equipment specific, I'd post it here.</p> <p>I have a D40, and a non-VR 18-55mm kit lens. I feel that the lens is just too bloody slow, especially at the long end. I am primarily interested in taking intimate pictures of people. My budget is rather modest(about £250, I don't mind spending more if I feel it's worth it), however: I will seriously consider manual focus lenses, and primes as well.<br /> Speed, size, and weight are the priorities, because if it's not fast enough, I might as well keep the lens I have, and if it's too big or heavy, I'll probably end up leaving it at home.</p> <p>Thank you for your time</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>Perhaps the newish Nikon AF-S DX 35mm f/1.8G lens, which retails for about 123 pounds:</p> <p><a href="http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/2183/AF-S-DX-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.8G.html">http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/2183/AF-S-DX-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.8G.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>I don't think it would be long enough to be honest, however it is fast and as such I will keep it in mind.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>Fair enough; then I'd look at the 50mm f/1.4 AF-D lens for about 200 pounds:</p> <p><a href="http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/1902/AF-NIKKOR-50mm-f%252F1.4D.html">http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/1902/AF-NIKKOR-50mm-f%252F1.4D.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarmstrong Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>I would suggest the Nikon 85 mm f 1.8 AF-D as a good choice for portraits and street.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>Whilst the extra speed at that length would certainly be useful, I feel it would be somewhat of a waste, consdering I already have that length covered by the kit lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>The 85mm f/1.8 AF-D lens is nice and compact, if a bit long on a DX DSLR for my tastes, but it will cost about 276 pounds.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>It really depends a lot on how you shoot street, most don't use a lens over 50mm on full frame cameras so an 85mm on DX would be way too long.<br> I don't think you can do this with one lens, I'd get a 35mm and a 50mm in ais.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>I don't really have the nerve for street photography yet(started taking photography seriously in February), and in the meantime I'm concentrating on portraits as they are what I enjoy the most. I loathe flashes, and as such I need a fast lens, maybe something for head and shoulders portraits. Would the 85mm be suitable for this?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcphotography Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>Keep in mind the AF-D lenses mentioned (50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8) will NOT autofocus on your camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>That's fine, I focus manually on my rangefinders anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I shoot a lot on the street and do a bunch of street portraits. I recommend the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 - essentially the only lens I use. I pretty much shoot with it wide open all the time cuz of the way it renders subjects against cluttered backgrounds. Great for low light, too. I have an 85/1.8, but it's just way to long for shooting on the street or doing portraits with a crop cam. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_s. Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>SD, consider getting a couple of manual focus lenses. The f/5.6 you have on the long end of the 18-55 is really ridicously slow.</p> <p>I use 105/2.5 for heads & shoulders but I shoot them tight. Small manual focus primes you might want to consider are 20/3.5, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/1.4, 85/2 and 105/2.5. As I'm sure you know they won't meter on the D40 so you'll be back in the early 1950's but with an LCD and a histogram :-)</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>On a budget? For a D40, look at late NAI lenses like a 35/2 or 50/1.4. For close-ups, the 55/3.5 Micro Nikkor is cheap and pin-sharp. The E series 100/2.8, though a bit long, is a bargain, too.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_knight Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>Brad nailed it, Tamron 17-50. It is now my kit lens. Can't beat it, fast glass, weight, and cost.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwrtertbsratbs5 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 <p>"I loathe flashes, and as such I need a fast lens, maybe something for head and shoulders portraits."</p> <p>You loathe flashes? Why? Flash, done well, can look fantastic, and it can look natural. But it does require time and a commitment to learn.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshloeser Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>I use a D700, so it may not apply as well in your case, but I basically use two lenses on the street (where I shoot regularly), those being the 50/1.8 and 85/1.8. I've found myself to be considerably more successful on FX than DX with those lenses and focal lengths, for what it's worth. <br> If I may suggest it, try those lenses with a Nikon film camera sometime. You may be surprised by what you see.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramon_v__california_ Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (motorized version) or the sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 HSM. well within you budget and considerations.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogu Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>SD,<br> for me one is the best "Portraiture and Street" lens, the Nikon 16-85mm but it's almost double of your budget... I own this lens and although a bit slow, i find it perfect for portraits and as a walk around lens; while in holidays in Europe I have no problem to shoot in the narrow european streets at 16mm or to include the entire Plaza Mayor in Madrid or the San Marco square in Venice!<br> If you can find the money and buy it you'll never regret it!</p> <p>rgrds</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>Brad,<br> I found a one-star review on the Tamron, and as such I'm avoiding it. Apparently once the zoom was moved, the autofocus stopped working, although this was probably an isolated case. Mainly, I feel it is too similar to the lens I already have.</p> <p>Pete,<br> I think learning how to evaluate light myself would be a useful skill, so having to meter myself is fine by me, for the time being at least.</p> <p>Gary,<br> Excuse me for my ignorance, but what exactly does NAI mean? Also, I don't think I will consider the micro nikkor, as I already have that focal length covered, and micro/macro photography is of no interest to me.</p> <p>Robert,<br> I loathe flashes because I find them obtrusive. Later on I will probably start using them, but for now I consider them accessories rather than, like a lens, essential kit.</p> <p>Josh,<br> I own a Zorki 4k with a 50mm lens, so I will be getting some experience there. That is, when I can get the film rewind working.</p> <p>Gogu,<br> I find that lens at £429 brand new, so I may keep that in mind for Christmas. For now however, it is too expensive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 >>> Brad,I found a one-star review on the Tamron, and as such I'm avoiding it. Apparently once the zoom was moved, the autofocus stopped working, although this was probably an isolated case. Mainly, I feel it is too similar to the lens I already have. Where was this one-star review? Just about every review I've seen people have been extremely positive about this lens. Also, the lens' wide aperture gives you creative capabilities far above the kit lens. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipward Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>SD,do not dismiss Brads advice so quickly( that Tamron review sounds bogus.I have owened and abused several Tamrons and they have never let me down).He knows of what he speaks,this is one serious street shooter.Check out his postings.I use a Sigma 18 to 50 2.8 for street work myself.When your confidence improves to move in closer you will be sorry not to have a fast wide angle option.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_hess2 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>I agree about the Tamron...fine lens, and at f/2.8 is considerably faster ( and better quality) than your current lens. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>FYI, Tamron has announced an stabilized of the 17-50mm f/2.8:</p> <p><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090107tamron17mm50mm.asp">http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090107tamron17mm50mm.asp</a></p> <p>Having owned the 17-55mm f/2.8 DX Nikkor, I got spoiled by having the AF-S motor, which the Tamron lenses don't have. But I've been impressed by the small size and image quality of the Tamron 17-50mm.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_arnold Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 <p>the tamron 17-50 is a better street lens than the 16-85 (or any nikon kit lens), because of the compact size, excellent IQ, and 2.8 aperture. i've never had a problem such as you describe, with the AF not working when the zoom is moved, with the older, screw-drive model.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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