charles barcellona www.bl Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I'm still sort of in shock over this incident, but thought I'd pass it along to the group. Saturday I shot the Tampa Vulkon Star Trek convention as a fun thing to do. I had the M4-2 around my neck and my M6TTL with a 90 Elmarit over my shoulder. Domke bag on the other shoulder. The place was crowded, and people were brushing past each other trying to get through the more congested areas. Late in the afternoon, I felt something strange behind me and turned around and my M6 didn't really want to turn with me! Caught some guy with my camera in his hands - strap still on my shoulder - thumb on the lens release, trying, I suppose, to figure out how to dismount the lens!! He just said 'nice camera' and booked out to the pool. He didn't get the lens, and thinking back, luckily he didn't drop it either because it was unlatched. People, I think I was the target of a two man theft operation, one distraction, the other the theif. There was only ONE policeman in uniform there at the hotel that I could see. Maybe others in plainclothes, I dunno. I know these sorts of places must be the hangout spots for this sort of thing, pickpockets and the like, so be careful out there!!! BTW, pics of the Vulkon will follow (Little Xena was outrageous!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david enzel Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 If you are not safe at a Star Trek convention, you aren't safe anywhere. Thanks for the warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_fang Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Sort of flies in the face of the theory that on the street, an M is flea market fodder that nobody would want to bother with. You might want to think about hanging both your cameras off your front instead of one at the front and the other at your side, and keeping your bag zipped (or clipped) shut. I usually carry two bodies with me, and I rarely have both out at once. But when I do they're both in front, with one having a longer strap so it dangles just under the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted July 21, 2002 Author Share Posted July 21, 2002 I cant say for sure that it was the Leica name that made me a target. I think not. Moreso, as I reflect on it, most of the cameras there were digital P/S types. I saw one newspaperman with a Canon with some longish lens maybe 28-70L (it was white). I cant remember if he was dangling more than one camera. I think maybe I was the mark because I was into shooting, talking with people, enjoying the ?experience? of it all - read that distracted. Gotta keep yer wits about yourself! I never, EVER, considered my lenses being at risk before. I do keep my domke clasped (I've leared to clasp it and unclasp it with one hand - must have been all those jazz chords on the gitfiddle...), and I keep the flap toward me because in my mind I envisioned a hand sneaking into my pouch. But the lens, on a camera, on my shoulder? Never gave it a moments thought till now. This whole thing really has me upset. People... I'm a bruiser, think six two, two seventy five. Maybe the weasle thought he could sneak in under me or something, I dunno. So much for us big guys being safer than the littler folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor_osatuke Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Charles, Your eqipment is insured, isn't it? If it is not than you are much braver than me. I was a victim of photo thieves a couple of years ago. But insurance made almost a non-event. Would have been different without the insurance. I am glad you got out of it unscathed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Actually I might suspect that a Star Trek convention would be #2 behind an LHSA convention in the number of people who know what a Leica is and what it's worth ;>) And I recall reading that at one of the recent LHSA conventions there were thefts at the swap meet. Live long and prosper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Why did they bother trying to remove it by hand? Should'nt they have beamed it off your shoulder and transported it straight to their Ferengi fence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 You multiple lens guys, I don't know. It's enough for me just to remember where my M6 is with 35mm attached. I'm just now thinking about carrying a 2nd lens, which I would put INSIDE my pocket. If you've got equipment hanging on your body in a crowd, any crowd, you shouldn't be totally surprised by this. Welcome to the human race. As for it being a Leica, I doubt that is the decisive issue in a thief's mind. Nikons sell on eBay too, don't they???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Charles: You are lucky indeed! I wouldn't be surprised if the next time the thief has some heavy duty scissors and CUTS your strap while his accomplice distracts you. The situation is worse in Europe where hordes of gypsies will surround you and try to grab a wallet, camera or anything. This is where a tripod really comes in handy. this has helped me on several occasions. I would also suggest that you purchase a camera bag that can be secured with small locks. Many museums or other buildings no longer allow bulky bags (ie, camera bags) and you must "check them." I have Tenba and Billingham bags with locks! Finally, please make sure you have insurance. It will prevent a real heartache if the next thief is successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadji_singh Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I've been warning people about those Trekkies... er, Trekkers for years now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver_s. Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Charles, you're really one lucky guy. I'd rather assume the thief was trying to pull the entire tool off your shoulder (what a dumbass to not just cut the strap wit´h a razor blade!), to turn invisible in the crowd seconds later.<p>Btw read Dante Stella's comment at the bottom of his "capsule summary" on the <a href="http://www.dantestella.com/technical/nikoleic.html#13535">Nikkor Q.C. 13.5cm/f:3.5</a>. Bear in mind, however, that the original lightsaber was the handle of a Graflex flash gun.<p>I dare not think what would have happened to a Digilux 1 with all its Borg implants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_yik1 Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Charles, I reckon you should have have then removed your camera from your shoulder and used it as a weapon the guys head. A good imprint of the lens on his forehead would give him good memories of the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoresteen Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Another advantage of the Leica Screw Mount! Thieves can't get the lens off quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Karl, i almost did that to someone who grabbed my swc on the brooklyn bridge 7/4/01. he thought i was taking his picture when the swc was recording a large portion of the bridge. what the thrusting of the aluminum capped lens in his face would've caused only one can imagine...didn't do it...right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted July 22, 2002 Author Share Posted July 22, 2002 I dont think he was after the camera - the place was a crowded hotel hallway in the middle of several conference rooms. I think he would have been too noticable. I could see that if he was a grab and run guy, but I think he was a pickpocket going for his chance on the lens. Hopefully I spoiled his afternoon and saved some people from having their wallets and such lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver_s. Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Sorry to contradict you on this, Charles, but crowds are <u>the</u> place to turn invisible, and someone pushing through the crowd with a camera (to get away from you)--don't we all know that rudeness is essential for photojournalists?<p>Anyway, you kept your equipment, and that's what counts. Hopefully it won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted July 24, 2002 Author Share Posted July 24, 2002 You're right, escpecially on a street - or open area - and I would agree with you 100 percent, except this was in a fairly narrow hallway beween conference rooms, he'd have to have gone a good deal of distance in the crowd to get out of the building without giving himself away. As it was, he chose a side door, got in plain view as he booked it out to the pool area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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