Jump to content

Do you tell Bride and Grooms its your first wedding??


freya_jensen

Recommended Posts

<p>I am having a dilema. I have been asked through a friend of a friend to shoot their wedding as they don't have any much money and need to only spend about £500 tops.<br>

I just don't know whether to say its my first shoot if they ask how many i have done? I feel confident, I think I can pull it off and I know I have as much contingency as I can think of. But still... does one lie? or just show the portfolio of other portraits etc - I have a good 25 shoots of families but no weddings as yet.<br>

What do you think and what did you do?</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Don't lie.<br>

When I shot my 1st wedding alone I told them upfront. I charged them a pauper's fee ($250) and they were well aware I had never done it alone before. The wedding turned out well, but I would never lie about your experience. They deserve to know up front what they're getting.<br>

Everyone has their "first time"....once you get through it and move on it gets easier.</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>You have to be honest. The couple will appreciate the fact that you are willing to capture their event and save them a little cash. I did my first few wedding for free until I built a portfolio that represented my style and quality. I appreciate the clients who gave me that opportunity. Everyone must start somewhere. If you charge, then the expectations will be high and you will be pressured to produce. If you think that you can pull it off, then tell the couple that you are committed to providing them the best you can do and hope that they still trust you to capture probably the most important photos of their lives. Good luck!</p>
Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Did they decide to hire you for 500 quid based on not seeing any of your shots? No wedding shots? You're (potentially) in way too deep and you should be charging cost only, preferably zilch and doing it to gain experience if that is what you want to get into. Could you list the camera gear you plan to use? There are so many aspects of wedding photography you need to be competent at, as a minimum, before the creative side can even kick in. If you take £500 off a couple and produce garbage, you may end up in the garbage....</p>
Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Its about honesty and moral. You cant make up for misstakes afterwards. The couple have to know what they are paying for. They are taking a risk by hiring you and they deserves to know that.<br>

I took very little charge at my first wedding and by time I charged more and more, but I did always tell about my experience and still do.</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>You are all so right, I hated the advice I was given about telling little white lies.. so I shall absolutely tell them and keep costs to basic expenses and producing any prints..<br>

The couple just thought thats what they had to pay and I haven't confirmed back yet as I wanted to write up a basic T & C contract with them based on it being my first wedding (and being good practice of course)<br>

Thanks for your feedback... and yes, its too much hard work lying!<br>

In my bag:<br>

D700<br>

24-70mm<br>

50mm 1.4<br>

16-35mm<br>

SB800 x2<br>

D80 as back up (i know! but I need to earn some cash to get a better back up)<br>

monopod<br>

lots of flash cards!</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Tell them the truth and charge accordingly.Before I shot my first wedding I assisted a well established wedding photographer for free and attended workshops.This I found invaluable.Even with this I found my first solo wedding stressful even though it turned out to be a success.Ask a local wedding photog.whose style you like if you can assist them for a few weddings.Most will be most happy to have someone to carry their gear.Some may even let you shoot over their shoulder.Your camera is fine but I would strongly advise you to have a backup flash mounted on the second body and ready to go.Relax and good luck.</p>
Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>I don't have any experience as a wedding photographer, but I *do* have experience with other first jobs as a freelancer. What I did was make a global estimation of my costs, and (since I trust the people hiring me) told them that that was my minumum fee, which wouldn't make me any money. The rest (in your case $500 -/- your costs) was to be mine if they were satisfied about the job I did. I think this is called 'no cure, no pay'?<br>

I did it like this, because, when I'm hiring people, I like to pay them as well. Ok, I won't go as far as to say I *like* paying money, but I like to treat people the way I want to be treated.</p>

<p>My advice: be honest, give them complete insight in your costs, and ask for your 'salary' as a satisfaction bonus. Oh, and an extra tip; if you know what you're going to charge once you're a true pro; put that on the bill, and put the difference between that and the $500 as a beginners discount or something. So if they show it to other prospective customers, they see what you *could* charge.</p>

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>You can first shoot others peoples wedding for free, see what you have got, analyse your faults or shortcomings. I have done the same; 2 pro's were shooting the ceremony, one with video-camera, the other with photo-camera, I was trying not to be on their way - but I took few shots. To be honest - those were not good, I have set the flash-light on wrong position/angle , I chose wrong ISO, forgot the AI focus and so on... Maybe I had to choose P or Auto option instead of M, but I thought RAW is better. Anyway, if you do so, it won't be you first wedding, but tell the people the truth, talk to them, find out what is important to them, what do they expect, do some recon to the place od action, make a plan, decide what lens to use, fast prime or zoom..</p>
Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Tell them up front. You have mutual friends and that can always be an awkward situation.<br>

You could charge nominal amount for the job to cover expenses plus a very smalll fee - the reason I say that is that it turns it from a favour into a paid job. If money changes hands and quality is not what they expect then arguments are more about a 'professional' service and less a personal one. I favour Joris's suggestion of a proper fee being based on satisfaction.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<blockquote>

<p>"flying a plane or driving a bus ", LOL, that's priceless. Totally relevant.</p>

</blockquote>

<p>I assume that's a sarcastic 'Totally relevant'.</p>

<p>Yes, they are extreme examples but my view is that whatever you do, if you are doing it professionally then you should be confident and competent. Therefore why would you need to tell anyone it's your first time?<br>

Think of this in terms of any occupation, not just photography.</p>

<p> </p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>Freya, everyone has their "first". Why would you lie about it? What would you do if they asked to see some wedding shots if you told them you had done a wedding before?</p>

<p>If you feel relatively confident you can do a good job for them, then present any current non-wedding work with that sense confidence. </p>

<p>Do NOT do it for Free! Some people seem to think that doing something for free absolves them from responsibility. Embrace the responsibility and charge them the full rate they are willing to pay ... trust me, you will earn it. </p>

<p>Advice:</p>

<p>• practice shooting moving people. Practice using the Live View on your D700. Practice using the enlargement feature to check focus when shooting the formals. </p>

<p>• MOST of all, go to the rehearsal so you are familiar with the conditions you'll be shooting in AND you'll learn who the VIPs are. Take your camera/flash with you for some practice shots. See if you can attend the rehersal dinner if there is one, it's good practice for shooting a reception.</p>

<p>• Get an itinerary from the Bride at least a week prior so you'll already know the flow of the wedding. Familiarity helps reduce surprizes and anxiety and allows you to concentrate on shooting.</p>

<p>Your gear bag is well stocked ... but you may want to beg/borrow/rent a longer lens (and a tripod if the church is dark). Make sure you have spare batteries for both cameras and both SB800 flashes. Also, do you have a bounce card to diffuse the flash?</p>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<p>HI Freya.<br>

I agree with Mark,Preparation is absolutly vital,prepare a list of must do pictures request from the bride and groom any specials they require make a note of these and place them on your list,your assistant -normally your wife or partner-will quote the shots to do in the sequence as you have listed them,this method allows you to concentrate on all things camera.<br>

There are some excellent books about regarding posing ,try the set ups with your partener ,standing .posture,get used to this type of rapport,<br>

Some people are naturally at ease ,and confident on a wedding shoot,this normally stems from<br>

good preparation prior to the event,so go out there and knock em dead,<br>

All the very best for your first<br>

Dave</p>

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...