tim_k1 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Elvis Kennedy posted a video on youtube of the unboxing of a Leica M8.2. Enjoy it here; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orvillerobertson Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 OK, but unboxing my iPhone was more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattler123 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Why is this worth a youtube video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Unboxing a new M8.2 is abit upscale. Its more a classy wrap being opened. One has that new car excitement. Its fun to also open the Yak hair string and brown paper; on a Ukraine Zorki bought from Ebay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_k1 Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Worth a youtube video? Free to upload, free to view. If you're not interested, simply move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 "<I>If you're not interested, simply move on</I>" <P> An amazingly simple concept that many on this forum have failed to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Like Chris Matthews talking to Obama, I get a thrill going up my leg waiting for the battery charge, strap attachment, CF card insertion, and lens mounting videos, coming next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 And I've gotten a thrill reading your non-sequitur ;) It's a screaming great camera, all I got to say.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Be a sport and drink the Kool-Aide Andy. I need Leica to be around for 20 or 30 years still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Great! The best part of buying a new camera is the unboxing. I especially liked the way you drew it out by spending WAY too much time on the manuals, etc while the M8 still sat in the box! Leica porn at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Andy K.: <i>"... CF card insertion, ..."</i> <p>I'd like to see this one, since it takes SD cards! <p>What I'm really waiting for is the video titled: "How to wipe your arse the Leica way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 You know Ray, I am sure that for the type of shooting you and I do, It IS a great camera. It's the fatuousness of the whole Leica "experience", like a guy wasting a small bit of his life making a video of a box-opening, not to mention the absurd price-to-value ratio, that just turns me off. Try as I might I can't get beyond the fact that my Olympus E-400, worth about $350, has exactly the same damn 10MP Kodak chip as the M8, and it's digital files, good until about 640 ISO (hmmm....) also look really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Sorry Vic, mea culpa. Heck, they ought to do a tie in with San Disc and do a special "Leica red dot for a red card" deal. That ought to be good for another vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Tim K, are you are Elvis Kennedy? Andy, maybe Elvis was taking the piss out of the fatuous segment of Leica owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Andy K wrote: "...<I>I can't get beyond the fact that my Olympus E-400, worth about $350, has exactly the same damn 10MP Kodak chip as the M8</I>" <P> How do you figure they're the exact same chip? If I'm not mistaken the Oly doesn't have a 1.33 crop factor or offset microlenses, and has an AA filter. A similar pixel count yet different crop factors itself suggests something is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orvillerobertson Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Tim, thanks for posting this video. I know you didn't mean to light any fires. Unless you lit the California ones, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Crop factor has nothing to do with the chip. The 10MP chip came out of Kodak at the same time for both cameras. The E-400 was only sold in Europe, because, it was rumored, Oly only got a small batch of chips from Kodak. It doesn't have the microlenses, whatever they are because the Oly 4/3 lenses are designed to pass light straight on to the chip. It does have an AA filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I don't know, with a Summicron in front of that sensor my pics are looking sweet. Sweeter than the 5D right out of the box, although yeah, it starts to fall apart at ISO 1250 if exposure isn't right. If night photography is big for somebody, that's a factor. What gets overlooked though is that it's legit to have a certain loyalty toward the camera you used early on that fit your style. I think I've heard you express the same with regard to Olympus, Andy. To others none of that matters. As for the video, it's an info video to show what's in the box and what's different about the new version. The guy is pretty no nonsense about it compared to some of the silly youtube camera reviews that have been done on just about every brand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Agreed, Ray. If it was in the same ballpark as even a 5D I'd probably take a flyer myself. Actually now I've gone back to using a Contax G, which I used in the late 90's for a while. I've actually shot with pretty much everything, because I enjoy acclimating to different lenses and viewfinders and controls. Of course another way of looking at it, I've shot with exactly the same stuff forever: 35mm film and short, prime lenses, or its digital analogue. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 A Leica M3 in the 1950's cost more than a new 95 buck Signet 35; or new 195 buck Retina IIIc and all three shot fine images; but the Leica cost a hell of alot more. Its interesting to read how folks new to photography think that Leica is SO expensive; when they have always been; for 7 decades . Maybe folks here will also discover a BMW costs more than a VW too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orvillerobertson Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hey Andy, why did you return to the Contax G? I had a G2 and did not like the focusing at night or for low contrast subjects. I thought it had some of the best lensees I'd ever used, though. Gave them up very reluctantly. Actually the next owner had some of my skin to peel off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Andy K. wrote: "<I>Crop factor has nothing to do with the chip</I>" <P> Huh? the same pixel count on a smaller chip means higher pixel density. Not a chance these are the same sensors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Huh? The crop factor on any given camera has nothing to do with the actual size of a sensor. It's a ratio. If you were to say that a 4/3 sensor is smaller than an APS-C you would be correct, though the difference is pretty marginal. No need to get immediately defensive, Douglas. Im not attacking your faith in all things Leica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rroberto Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hope no one minds my jumping in here with a different question, but it is related to the discussion. I started looking seriously at the M8 last week. I was in a camera store on Saturday and spoke to a sales person who claimed that the Leica sensor has MUCH BETTER color rendition than any other digital camera. He did not say more accurate, or better saturation, just "better". Can any one tell me if the sensor is superior to others? Is is a difference that would be visual? Thanks for any and all opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Anyone trying to make fun of Leica fans for the concept of an "unboxing" video is a couple of years too late. These type of videos have been around for a while now. Most often focusing on any new electronic/computer/digital toy. It's not a "leica" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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