mikhail_arkhipov1 Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 I have a custom-modified lens for MF camera which is essentially a normal lens with a fixed f8 diaphragm all elements but one removed. It takes soft, uncorrected pictures like these <a href="http://www.arkhipov.com/samples/Gallery4/imagepages/image3.htm">Picture 1</a><br><a href="http://www.arkhipov.com/samples/Gallery4/imagepages/image2.htm">Picture 2</a> Which old/classic lens will make similar pictures? I also own soft focus lens, but SF gives different effect. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_vaehrmann Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hi Michael, <p> none of the old lenses will take such pictures because they are all better corrected. If your custom-modified lens is just a part of an normal lens, any single convex lens e.g. loup will do the job. The Rodenstock Imagon is also an special lens wich is not full corrected and would give similar effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Two older soft focus lenses with similar results: <p> http://www.cosmonet.org/camera/brotan_e.htmhttp://www.cosmonet.org/camera/verito_e.htm <p> The Imagon is a high class soft focus lens, but much different than the two above. <p> http://www.cosmonet.org/camera/imagon_e.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_walton2 Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 The Imagon's are great! I have a 250 with the three disks, shade and filter. You can find them on Ebay pretty reularly. They are beautiful for portraits, still life's, and almost everything for a back up negative for a different look. I have used mine with strobes also in the studio (http://unblinkingeye.com/Photographs/Gallery/SWalton/ SWalton1/swalton1.html) also. I do want to say, they do have a long bellows draw, just be aware of this if you buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 For something similar, check out Mark Tucker's "plungercam" gallery at http://marktucker.com/plungercam/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 I think you need a Zeiss Softar filter, not another lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychophoto Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 The look kind of reminds me of some zone plate stuff I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcrisp Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 A cheap suggestion which will get you the localized smeary flare around the white highlights, you can take a lens/shutter out of an old kodak folder. The ones for 616 size file, like the Kodak Monitor for example, are in the 120mm range focal length and they will cover 4X5 straight on. You buy the cameras for less than $20, and the shutter pops right out when you undo the retaining ring on the inside. The less you clean up the glass the more it will look like whay you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_caluori Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Greetings, <p> Those images look like they were taken with a Holga. For the benefit of those unfamiliar, a Holga is a plastic (toy) MF camera made in China. It uses a simple plastic lens and has a fixed f8 aperture. You can probably approximate that look using a pinhole on LF. <p> Regards, Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_lastoria Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 I think the filter adapter will work, but it will not be as satisfying as the lens. Try the adapter, but it is a totally different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renee_galang1 Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Micheal,I have sold my mamiya 6 gear because I have turned into "soft" ever since I bought an old canon 7 with the F 0.95 50mm lens. When used wide open, it create the images identical to what you have attached. Especially when I do portraiture. The softness is just wild as far as I am concern. I still keep my cambo wide with 47xl for my LF requirements. <p> Renee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAn Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Michael, great shots by the way, especially the first one! Sorry for the off topic ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_ellis3 Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 The lens didn't make the photographs, you did, and very nice photographs they are, especially the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_paramore Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Michael, You don't need to be asking questions, you need to be giving answers. The shots are great. You can get the same effect with single element lenses mounted in a shutter. I have had good luck with using the "plus" lenses designed for 35mm closeups mounted in a shutter. You have to figure out the f-stops. Good work with the setup you have. <p> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_galli4 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Michael, you got me thinking and I removed the rear group from a 100mm 2.8 Xenotar and am doing some tests. At wide apertures it looks very interesting. Sharp........but, not sharp. Covers 4X5 wnd maybe more. About FL 7" that way. The rear group in any tessar may have possibilities too but probably too sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhail_arkhipov1 Posted May 12, 2002 Author Share Posted May 12, 2002 Thanks to everybody for information and I appreciate that you like my pictures. It looks like I need to get old Xenotar or Planar mounted in shutter and remove some glass... I didn't do it myself for the MF camera (it is actually Kiev-60 that I bought ready with the lens modified by a gentleman in Minsk, Belarus). I am rather clumsy, but I'll give it a shot :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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