William Kahn Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The latest Hasselblad newsletter announces the new HD3II-50 with, yep, a 50MP sensor (apparently Kodak's latest). It sounds like it will be introduced at Photokina, but no indication of how soon it will be on the street, or how much it will cost (probably more than my house). Time to buy another Powerball ticket...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrik Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 According to the latest Hasselblad newsletter the H3DII-50 is not only introduced at Photokina but also instantantly available. Ulrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I'll see it next week at Photokina :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hasselblad no longer make new cameras.<br><br>What they do make are new digital backs. And some software (mostly firmware).<br>So any new Hasselbad 'camera' is an old Hasselblad camera with a new back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 P.S.<br><br>If considering to spend major amounts of money on the new 50 MP thing, perhaps it would be better to wait for the next digital back to come along.<br>Announced for 2009, so though not available instantly, won't be long either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 Q.G., I'm hanging on to my 501CM until they come out with a back that I won't have to get a second mortgage for. Of course, being that I'm 68, by the time that happens I'll probably need a camera support attachment for my walker....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That's not so bad.<br>Always a stable platform. And the walker will hold the laptop and external hard drive we'll need to store the images. And even when going untethered, we need something to take the load of the many CF cards needed.<br>Starting to sound really appealing: a walker. Maybe Imacon could start providing those as an in-the-box accessory? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_wayne1 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Good replies. I'm curious as to how many of these kits are actually selling on an annual basis. 50? 100? Thousands? It just wouldn't seem like to me that they'd sell very many $40,000 cameras but, hey, maybe there are more people that buy it than I would ever dream. Same with the Phase One Backs. When they come out with a price tag of $40,000 for the back alone I'm wondering just how many of these things are selling per year. To make things simple if something has a price tag of $40,000 and they sell 300 of them a year that's only generating $12,000,000 a year in revenue and considering the grand scheme of things that just doesn't seem like a ton of money when taking into account what the potential costs probably run on this stuff. But, hey, maybe I'm way off base here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Voluminous Landscape had an article on the new Phase One release that mentioned the total world medium format back market (not just P1) was 6000 units/year. I think Blad has about 1/2 of that, the rest being divvied up between P1, Jenoptik, Leaf, old stock of the Mamiya RZ, and Megavision. p.s. Hasselblad does make new cameras. They're now on the third revision of the H series. The latest cameras feel a lot more "integrated" when you bolt on a back than they did just 2 years ago. They're sort of where the 35mm DLSR market was about 12 years ago in terms of functionality and ergonomics (Kodak DSC backs attached to Nikon F5 film SLRs)... The Mamiya ZD DSLR (teh ZD camera, not the ZD back) was a major breakthrough. It managed to approach the level of integration and ergonomics of the Nikon D1. If Mamiya had managed to ship in 2004, they would only have been 5 years behind the Nikon D1. (well, the Minolta wouldn't have had the shooting speed, AF speed and accuracy, or metering accuracy o the Nikon, but you get the picture). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hey William, consider that the Hasselblad workout plan is keeping you younger. I love my film Hasselblads, and I shoot digital H's for assignments, but I'm just at a point where I just don't care that much. I'm rather intrigued by the progress of the Hy6 system though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 <i>"p.s. Hasselblad does make new cameras. They're now on the third revision of the H series."</i><br><br>It's the same old H-camera, not new.<br>The only new thing about it is something in the firmware.<br><br>Hasselblad does not (!) make new cameras. They indeed are in the first place Imacon, then Imacon, and finally Imacon once again. The only difference between them and Leaf, Phase One and others is that the latter use cameras from another make as a platform, while Imacon were given the Hasselblad camera + production facility by Shriro to put their backs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Fuji is the "Hasselblad camera + production facility". Shriro doesn't own that, yet. The "Hasselblad" that Shriro bought was the distribution network, the service network, and a little 60 employee factory that builds, distributes, and services all the square Blads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 No, no, no...This thing again.<br>Hasselblad manufacture the H cameras. The only thing Fujifilm makes for Hasselbad are the viewfinder, and the lenses. And those not even completely: the shutters in the lenses are made in Sweden again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Yes, yes, yes, this thing again... The only thing Fuji makes for Hasselblad is... everything. H series are just Fuji 645 with Hasselblad labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Sure... Anything that makes you happy. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 The one you're trying to convince is yourself. The entire rest of the forum knows the truth. The question is, why does this mean so much to you that you are concoct elaborate self deceptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Joseph,<br><br>So why do you not present your sources. How do you know that you are right?<br>The queston is, Joseph, why it matters so much to <i>you</i> that you think it necessary to bring this silly notion up, even though "the entire rest of the forum knows the truth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_caulfeild_browne Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Referring to the number of MFDBs sold each year, I think Phase accounts for more than 50%. Hassy may provide half the MF cameras, perhaps, but many of those are using Phase backs, not Hassy backs. My source for these figures is a non-scientific ad hoc survey conducted in the LL discussion forum - as I recall it! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcarbo Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I thought the 503cw was still being made along with all the accessories....is this not the case ..if i ordered one wouldnt i get a new one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Dennis,<br><br>Yes, you can still get new 503 CWs. (Though by far not "all" the accessories that were available once). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 they have a new lens Hasselblad HCD 35-90mm f/4.0/5.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 And dropped their prices by upto 40% (digital thingies only).<br>That <i><b>is</b></i> news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymages Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 yes perfect for buying , but not for selling your H1+ P45 :-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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