david.elliott Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I thought I would share with you my recent experience with the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8d. I should start out by saying that I am a true beginner. While I have had my Nikon d70 with 18-70mm kit lens for a few years now, I had only really used it for basic family events - bbqs, birthday parties, and the like. And I had only used it in auto mode! Side note: I recently purchased Understanding Exposure (another recommendation from the forums) and found it to be very very useful - particularly for a beginner like me. Based upon recommendations from this superb forum I purchased the 50mm f/1.8d. Fooling around with the lens in my house, it really seemed like I could exert more control over the photographs than I could with my slower kit lens, i.e. isolating the subject. And for the first time, I found I could do more than take mere family snapshots. (Of course I could with the kit lens too, it just never dawned on me...) Lens in hand, I went out to Washington DC. This was the first time I had taken a trip with the sole purpose of taking photographs. It was awesome. I spent the entire day in the city, taking just shy of 300 photographs. I have put together a gallery of (keeper) photos from the Botanic Gardens and Butterfly Exhibit from the Natural History Museum. (Link below) Note: post processing was done in Lightroom. Things I learned on the trip: (1) I was able to get many shots that would have been impossible on my slower kit lens.(2) I need to remember to adjust my ISO as the lighting changes.(3) I am absolutely unable to manually focus on butterflies.(4) Being unable to zoom does not bother me in the least. In the past, I would simply zoom to compose the photograph and having to take steps toward or away from the subject forced me to interact with it more. I really enjoyed using a prime. I was able to better focus on getting the basics down. (5) Photography is very rewarding.(6) My attempts at panning a carousel all resulted in failure...did look cool though.(7) People dont mind strangers photographing them so long as you are polite and introduce yourself first. (8) When you carry a camera in the city, you notice everybody else carrying one. There were dozens and dozens of tourists and locals alike out photographing. I am sure I learned more, but my lunch break is just about over, so I will cut short my ramblings. -------------------- Thanks for being such a great community, helping out and talking to beginners like me as well as pros. I have learned a lot from this forum and I only wish I had found it years ago. Here is the gallery for those that are interested: http://home.comcast.net/~david.elliott/WDCGardenButterflies/index.html I hope you enjoy viewing the photos as much as I enjoyed taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_hahn Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 David, I really enjoyed your list of "things I learned". I will check your shots out later. Good job, keep up the photography! michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoksner Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 We need more people like you, that use photo.net as a resource as opposed to a place to complain.. You're on the way to really having fun with photography, you've taken a good path, just trying to stick to the basics, keeping it simple. Have fun with the 50, this prime could turn you into an LBA (lens buying addict). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkelton Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I am glad you enjoyed your new 50mm 1.8 so much. I love mine too. If you every want a second prime, I would suggest an 85mm f1.8. It is a super sharp lens and the longer focal length allows you to further separate subject from background (It is my favorite lens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrankin Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 David: I looked at your photos. They're beautiful! I'm also a D70 user, with only the 18-70 so far. Your comments tempt me to try a prime! Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl_becker2 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 It seems that you had lots of fun and some very nice shots. You have found out why some of us still use primes. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan park Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Welcome to the lens that stays on my camera 80% of the time. Mine is of the AI flavor and is easily the smallest best performing lens I own. Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_arnold Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 nice use of the 50! i'd say you're all 'primed' and ready to go! i really like the inobtrusiveness of the 50/1.8, it's like a snubnose pistol with more oomph than one might think. it's great for candids, low-light stuff, and portraits. it has fairly good close-up performance and decent, but not great OOF elements (aka bokeh), but if more butterfly and bug pics are in your future, you may want to think about a longer macro lens, which improves bokeh and close-up range. since you have a d70, you can use almost any of the excellent 3rd party macro lenses, such as the tokina 100, sigma 105, tamron 90, or even the older nikon 105. good luck and happy shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tri-x1 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I believe using a prime makes the photographer think more about composition and background--a good thing.Most of the most remembered photos of the past 100 years were shot with primes, not zooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettPrucha Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 David, <p> Glad you had so much fun on your photo trip. Looks like you made good use of the 50mm. <p> I made almost the same trip as you not to long ago visiting the bufferfly exhibit and botanic gardens. I was there with kids in tow so I only took a couple of photos. I was also using the 50mm because it is so portable and makes a pretty good portrait lens which is what I like to focus on when photographing my kids. For a beginner I would say you have a really good eye for correct white balance. Did you set the white balance in camera or post? When I was at the bufferfly exhibit the lights inside created a really strong yellow cast. <p> My favorites shots of yours are <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~david.elliott/WDCGardenButterflies/content/DSC_0092_large.html">this one</a> and <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~david.elliott/WDCGardenButterflies/content/DSC_0223_large.html">this one</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I also loved the list of stuff you learned! nice photos,too! Keep at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diane_madura Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Nice photos, David. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_margolis Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 David, thanks for sharing this. While it is pretty common with other forums to share photo experiences, it is a bit more rare here and all too often received with a <yawn>. I hope your work will inspire others to share their progress as well. Keep on posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Fast glass costs more but it does allow you to do more things. It allows you to get more use out of your camera too! Over the past couple of years I've been getting rid of my slower lenses and replacing them with f2.8 zooms. Those give the ultimate in flexibility and image quality I think. As for "Most remembered shots of past 100 years" being made with a fixed lens, that is true. They were also made with film cameras. Technology has changed and we now have even more advanced equipment to choose from. My bet is the most memorable shots from the next 100 years will come 95% from quality zooms. Kent in SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elliott Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 It is really nice to return home from work to read such kind and encouraging comments. Thank you all. Michael: I will absolutely be out and about taking more photographs. Please feel free to let me know what you think of the photos. Sam: Thanks. I am going to put the lens buying on hold for a bit. I want to get used to this lens first and enjoy it thoroughly. Next on the purchase list is a monitor calibration system. ... After that I will return to lens buying. Good thing you wrote out what LBA stands for - I would never have guessed. :) Matt: I will definitely check it out. Maybe there is a local camera store with one in stock so I can take some test shots. Howard: Thank you. I am really enjoying this prime so far. I'd recommend giving this prime a go. It is not too expensive and it is a ton of fun. If it turns out that it just isnt for you, well then there is always ebay. :D Compared to the 18-70, this lens is MUCH smaller and lighter. The auto focus is a bit louder than on my kit lens, but it is very quick. Manual focus is smooth and easy on both. The viewfinder seems brighter with the prime. I have zero complaints. Carl: Thanks. I really enjoy the prime. I may just have to try out some others in future. Dan: The lens really is small! I was absolutely surprised when I took it out of the packaging. Tiny compared to my 18-70mm! Still, no problems handling it at all despite its small size. Eric: Absolutely. It is a very low key lens - not an attention grabber. Packs a wallop though! I do have the Tamron 90mm macro in my sights for an eventual purchase. In the meantime, I purchased a set of kenko extension tubes to use with this lens. I like to take photos of my watches and it has worked great in that respect! Thank you for the recommendations. Wayne: I agree (at least with respect to myself). With the zoom I just stood in one place and zoomed to crop. This is much more interactive; walking back and forth to get the photo how i want it. Still, I did have to do some cropping in Lightroom. I think that I will try turning on the gridlines in my viewfinder and see if that helps. Brett: Thanks. It really was a lot of fun. The compactness of the 50mm made it easier to take photos in the butterfly exhibit. It is fairly small in there and can get a bit crowded. The tickets were, if i remember right, $6. In my opinion they could charge several times that and it would still be worth every penny. It is pretty hot and humid in there though. ~88% or so was the readout on the thermostat. It was great though. The butterflies are all around you. With regard to white balance, I leave the camera on auto and deal with it in lightroom. I use the eyedropper (push W) tool in lightroom on a neutral color. Then, if necessary, I slightly adjust the slider to give a cooler or warmer look to suit my preference. I really like the photos you chose. The first one, I actually have an alternate version of it up there that is a pale, bluish purple color. That resulted from a sneeze while moving the white balance slider. :D Peter: Thanks. Always good to learn and share what one learns. Diane: Thank you! Bruce: Sure thing. I actually was not sure if this sort of thread was appropriate. I havent been here at photo.net long but I dont think I have seen another thread of this nature in my short time here. So, I emailed Shun last night and asked if I could make a post like this. Thankfully, he said yes! I hope others share their photographs and experiences here too. I would love to see that. Kent: Fast lenses sure seem fun. Definitely allows me to do things I couldnt do with my slower kit lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchen Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Enough has been said about its so-so built quality, enough has been said about its harsh out-of-focus hightlight, but we never say enough for what a little germ it is. Let it do what it can do and we have so much fun. I would like to join the chorus for the 50mm f1.8D. These days I am playing with it as a manual lens :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchen Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Sorry, it should be "a little gem". But you would be likely to be infected with this little gem if you play with it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 David... Really nice thread! The list of things you learn is great. It would be nice if everyone just starting would pay attention to those little details so the learning process would be shorter. My own experience is that a 50 prime is the best way to learn and its so cheap. I don't understand why some people think they are not. wish you lot of fun! Rene' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertbody Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 David, nice pictures, good job... you're definately getting your money's worth out of that lens. <br><br> Sooner or later you should invest into a 60mm/2.8 macro or a 105mm/2.8 macro (look at www.BhPhotoVideo.com or Adorama for good prices and service). The world of macros is really a special one. <br> <img src="http://robertbody.com/ontario/images/2007-09-30-oak-bee-4820.jpg"> <br> This picture is with Nikkor 105mm/2.8 macro. More of my <a href="http://robertbody.com/geo/special/flowers/previews.html">Flowers</a>. You cannot get closer than 18" (1.5ft) with your 50mm/1.8. You need a "macro" lens to get you into a 1:1 and thereabout magnification ratio for closeups. <br><br> Portraits are great with the 50mm/1.8.... <br>and then there is nature <br><br> <img src="http://robertbody.com/panoramic08/images/2008-05-26-sup-sunset-0156sp.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_galvez1 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 good pictures david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_oconnor4 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 David, good job... Yes, you cannot manually focus on butterflies, etc. up close because they move too often. What I have always done is pick a likely plant where they will land, focus on it and wait... Now usually the critter will land on one side or the other, and usually not exactly where I am focused - and refocusing will likely lose the shot as the critter will flit away before I can rock the focus ring back and forth enough times to satisfy my perfection instincts, so I simply lean forward <or back, as needed> an inch, and shoot without trying to check the focus... 9 times out of 10 the focus will be right on the critter... Just a suggestion. cheers ... denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 The 50mm f/1.8 is a really nice lens. The only problem with it is that it can get you hooked on high image quality, and to get that kind of quality at other focal lengths can cost a lot! But it's nice to see people enjoying these classic single focal length lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keerthi Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hi!Everybody, Talking of macro photography,reverse mounting the 50,f/1.8 should give great results.Is there a reverse mounting accessory that facilitates metering available somewhere?I've been doing it with my manual film camera,of course without metering and getting some good pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_ferber Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 You're well on your way to more fun! I like photography a lot. So many times I will set up for a picture and it comes out crummy, no matter how many shots of the subject. Then some quickie shots that you shoot on impulse come out so much better. The nice thing about digital, the images are free. BTW, here's a shot I took with my 50/1.8D just the other day. It's not a macro, but you can get fairly close... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liljuddakalilknyttphotogra Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Congratulations David, looks like you had fun discovering the lens on the camera. Lovely shots - - Lil :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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