fw1 Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 Hi ; for the first time I'm in a position to set up my own darkroom. I do both 4x5 and 6x17, and I have been tempted by a floorstanding Durst Laborator 138S, with 2x240 condensors, which I saw this morning and which looks clean and sturdy despite being about 40 years old ; the price was about US$1,000 equivalent.<p> My questions ;<p> - is this a good choice for black and white printing in the formats I use (I do not intend to get into colour), ad is the price reasonable?<p>- the head is not kitted out with variable contrast filters, so changing variable would probably be a matter of replacing the red filter with the reqired colour as required, and swinging this under the light beam - is this realistic?<p>- the original bulb is obsolete ; the guy selling it told me I should keep the original bulb for 6x17, and use a separate newer bulb for 4x5 - again, is this realistic?<p>- the guy recommended to me a 180mm f/5.6 Rodagon for about $320 equivalent - is this a good choice for my formats?<p> Thanks for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 That is an incredible price!<P> A1.) Yes.<P>A2.) Use the yellow (low contrast grades) and Magenta (higher contrast) filters for multi contrast control. <P> A3.) Don't know.<P>A4.) I'd want a 210 or 240 lens for 6x17cm but a 180 might do it. You'll have to try it to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
name_unknown55 Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 The 138S is a 5x7 enlarger that can be used for all formats from 35mm to 5x7. The two 240 mm condensors are required for 5x7. For 4x5 you would need a 240 mm and a 200mm. For 6x17 you would probably use the pair of 240 mm condensors (which is what I use). <p> There should be a filter drawer on the side of the head that takes vc filters. <p> The "standard" bulb for 5x7 is a 200W to 300W opal of 110mm diameter. 90 mm bulbs were recommeded for 4x5 -- but it is generally not necessary to fine tune the light coverage so finely. The 110 mm buln will work fine for all formats -- you just have to adjust the bulb height and location for each set of condensors you use. <p> The 180 mm Rodagon is more than enough coverage for 4x5 and should cover 6x18 format which has a diagonal of about 189 mm -- but I would check this. <p> Make sure that the film carrier is in good condition -- they are very difficult to fond and expensive. Condensors are available but also expensive. <p> The Durst 138S is a great enlarger -- it it is all together and in good condition, $1,000 sounds like a good price -- I paid considerably more for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fw1 Posted June 23, 2001 Author Share Posted June 23, 2001 Thanks for the replies ; will 2 x 240 condensors not work properly with 4x5, and would I need to find a 200 condensor for optimum work in that format?<p> Also, the Rodagon was slightly scratched on the rear element - would that make much difference in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
name_unknown55 Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 2 240 mm condensors will produce an illumination circle to more than cover a 5x7 negative -- so they will more than cover a 4x5 negative. Using a 240 mm and 200 mm condensor allows you to concentrate the light into a smaller circle. <p> I doubt that a small scratch on the rear element will be noticeable in any print -- but I would want to use the lens before purchase. Yopui also need to use it to check out the coverage of a 6x18 negative -- it may be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesar_barreto Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 Just a couple of suggestions: 1- VC acetate filters sandwiched between glasses fit nicely on the side slot; 2- using 240 condensers only may print AN glass texture on borders, if lens is too short. To avoid trouble you may use a diffusion sheet above condenser house, what can also help with light distribution with small bulbs.By the way, it's a great machine! <p> Cesar B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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