Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Just curious; This photo http://www.photo.net/photo/7149660 has 8 anonymous ratings (7 was nine hours ago) and it is not on TRP of the last 24 hours(updated recently).Although it does not look a bug...if there is any idea...I'd appreciate it. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 Probably its my mistake and it did not update yet...:| ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 It only has 4 ratings from the rate recent queue. That may have something to do with it. What "counts" with regard to image ratings is somewhat complex and obviously quite confusing. It certainly confuses me, so I'm not surprised it confuses you too! In the vast majority of cases such as this, the system is working perfectly well, but the user (and possibly some administrators like me) doesn't understand how the system works. The other problem which causes confusion is that not all numbers are updated at the same time and I don't think any of them are updated in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 :O) Only if I could catch the...other anonymous guys...:)) Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 A yes. Now I saw the rest of the answer! It is a wise system!...and I mean it... as, by the way, I have this chance to express my opinion through this post. Keep up the good work. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Bob is right. A photograph requires five ratings from the Rate Recent interface to qualify for inclusion into the <i>default</i> view of the TRP. Your photograph, Kostas, has only four ratings from the RR interface, the rest are ratings from the Category feature of the Critique Forum. Those are still anonymous but do not count towards the Magic 5 that you need. This is a <b>BIG PROBLEM</b> with the rating system because the Category rates DO count in how your photograph is presented in the Rate Recent interface.<br><br> The way it works is like this. When a member requests a Critique on his photograph, it immediatley enters the queue of the RR interface of the Critique Forum. Other members who are rating photographs by using the RR interface are immediately presented your photograph for rating. The photograph continues to be presented to the rators in the interface until it acquires five ratings. It then drops down in presentation priority and is not presented nearly as often. This is necessary so the other thousands of photographs get a chance to be rated. <br><br> If everything works as it was intended your photograph with its five ratings will appear in the 24 hour Rate Recent Average view of the TRP. <b>BUT</b> this is not happening anymore!<br><br> What <i>is</i> happening is that some members are not using the RR interface but are, instead, using the Category rating system, which by the way has been newly updated for ease of use. These ratings will knock your photograph right out of the RR interface regardless of how good it is. Once it is out of the RR interface you can forget about ever seeing it in the TRP. As I said before, <b>BIG PROBLEM</b> (that's a hint, Josh).<br><br> Far be it from me to even suggest that some members are using this system to keep other honest members off the TRP. This abuse formerly was achieved by lowballing, but with this game plan, even a <i>good</i> Category rate will knock the photograph out of the RR interface queue. <br><br> This is happening to my photographs, it is happening to my colleagues photographs, it is happening to your photographs. It needs to be addressed. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 I, again, was asking something quite certain (as I learn to live and breath with this problem so far - it is such a common problem in the human nature) witch had to do with the 8 anonymous ratings coming all from the "rate photos" tab and only from there. I'll accept administrator's explanation, thank you for the interest and add that I am from those who believe that if the problem could be solved somehow, the next similar problem would appear almost immediately :) But, of course, you never know...One day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 Walter! Sorry! I was such in a hurry, and still am. I did not know that from the by category critique forum (or "rate photos" by category tab) are anonymous also but separated from the others or something like that :) However, your contribution is valuable nevertheless. I only read it very fast. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_stemberg Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Kostas, I just did a quick search <b>in the last few minutes</b> on TRP for your image, and you are there:<br><br> Using the Search Criteria ~ Fine Art >> Past24 hours >> All Ratings (average) - you are #6 out of 9.<br> Using the Search Criteria ~ Fine Art >> Past24 hours >> All Ratings (sum) - you are #7 out of 15! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas Angelopoulos Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 Mike, thank you but the whole case was about the magic resent ratings and not the "all ratings" tab, which Walter explained before why this is happening occasionally. Walter, once more: I tried to read your explanation in 10-15 seconds and I missed of course all the meaning...and I was late at work, finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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