8x10 Bender?

[sorin]

I'm so tempted to get an 8x10 you cannot imagine. I currently have a 2x3 graflex and I love the larger (compared to the 35mm) slide in the light table. I cannot help thinking about a slide the size on the light table :-).

The type of phtography that I do is mainly outdoors. Usually not next to the car so a regular monorail 8x10, even if I had the cash to get it, it might be a bit too heavy. A field camera would be great but the ones that I've seen (used of course) are price prohibitive at this point.

So I was thinking about a Bender 8x10. It's about $400, it seems light and I'm good with my hands so I don't think putting it together will be a problem.

I would like some feedback from somebody that uses (used) this camera. I've read some reviews and the opinions are not consistent. Most of them are "Bender is great but ...".

[fred_leif]

Hi Sorin,

 

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I built one and have used it for about a year. One thing you have to

keep in mind about the Bender 8x10 (and other Bender kits, I suspect)

is that feedback stetches out over time and Jay has made changes in

the kit in response to comments.

 

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I noted that comments about the lens board retention system were

obsolete when I received my kit. The latching mechanism isn't what

commenters had objected to. So, my suggestion is that if you see a

comment that you are concerned about, call Jay Bender and talk to him

to see how the kit may have changed in that aspect. I read the

threads before purchase...and found that my concerns were allayed

significantly by a quick conversation.

 

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I've been fully satisfied with the 8x10...although I do need a more

robust tripod & head for mine...which again would probably add some

weight to the system. I would hesitate to use it in a stiff

wind...but wind mitigation is something I think all 8x10 users have

to deal with.

 

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Bottom line, I'd do it again. The experience of building the kit

gives you a lot of confidence in how the camera works. The

instructions are certainly adequate, but if you do put some parts

together in error, replacement parts can be had at nominal cost.

 

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Get a BIG dark cloth, a solid tripod and enjoy.

 

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Fred

[mark_parsons1]

I'd agree with the previous post. I built a Bender (4x5) nine years

ago, and it's still going strong. I don't use it on a constant basis

these days, but it still gets out to play a few times a year and it

still delivers the goods. Building it isn't much of a chore if you

aren't in a hurry - I'd recommend having a place you can use as a

semi-permanent work table and work on the camera for an hour an

evening for a few weeks. (There's a lot of built-in downtime in the

construction process anyway because you're waiting for glue to dry

before proceeding to the next step, etc.) I have no experience with

the Bender 8x10 specifically, but the camera-building process in

general was enjoyable and a valuable learning experience.

 

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Having said that, if you're considering buying a used 8x10 and want

something functional, lightweight, and reasonable (like around the

$400 figure you mentioned) I'd look at the Kodak 2-D. My dad picked

up one for $300 recently and it's a champ. Very functional design,

tons of bellows draw (like 28" or so) and the darn thing is pretty

light.

 

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If you've got the time and the inclination, I'd build the Bender, but

if not, you CAN get a decent 8x10 without breaking the bank. Either

way, you're going to enjoy the heck out of those giant negs or

chromes!

 

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Have fun,

[david richhart]

I agree with the thought of purchasing an older camera. Many

fine older cameras that need only a good cleaning and some minor

repairs can be found for under $400.00 <p>

If you are considering a Bender camera, you must feel reasonably

comfortable with your construction abilities. The mechanics of the

older cameras are simple and easy to figure out, and the hardwood

construction allows for easy re-fabrication of parts if needed. <p>

So if you are interested in a "user" and not just a "looker" you

might want to see what is available on Ebay. (P.S... Mark is right.

The old Kodak 2D would be a wonderful machine to start with.) <p>

Just one warning, Sorin, large format can be terribly habit

forming.

[erik_asgeirsson]

I just built the 4x5 over X-mas break (in under a week!). It's not

that difficult to build, you just need to have patience and the

willingness to "measure twice, cut once." BTW, it was my first real

woodworking project. I bought it for the same reason you state - I

couldn't afford anything else. I also thought it would be fun to

build my own camera, and I couldn't stand the idea of almost no

movements if I got an old Graphic. I have not used the "latest and

greatest" LF camera, but the Bender seems to hold its own. All things

considered, you should get it if you aren�t afraid of building a

camera yourself. It�s also very light (comparable to my EOS system).