carmen_m Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hello, <br /><br /> I own a 350D and have just bought a Canon 70-200 4/L (could not afford the IS version) which I have done some tests with. All tests have been done with tripod (Manfrotto 190xprob, head plate attached to Canon tripod ring) and wireless remote release. <br /><br /> I have taken some photos at dusk at 200mm @ 0.6 seconds, ISO 100. I figured this combination would be ideal to test mirror lockup effects on image quality. To my surprise, I see absolutely no difference when mirror lockup is enabled or disabled.... maybe it's my eyes? <br /><br /> Both pictures seem just as sharp (see below). I was under the impression that mirror lockup would remove vibrations which affect image quality especially at telephoto end. Does this mean my tripod is particularly sturdy? Needless to say I don't mind in the least, I was just curious why this happens. <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.mardiros.net/mirror.jpg"> <br /><br /> One other thing, I originally set the lens on MF @ infinity and all the pictures turned out blurred. They all turned out sharp when I use AF mode. The fact that the infinity indicator is not precise worries me, how can I make sure I get sharp pics when lens is manually set @ infinity? <br /><br /> Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Have you tried this test photographing text on paper, where the paper is parallel to the plane of your camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongeiste Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Your results may simply indicate that mirror lockup has no significant benefit over the mirror's regular operation in the situation you tested or at the magnification at which you view your pictures. I've found that for my uses, mirror lockup is usually unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetty Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Mirror lock up is very useful in macro photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmen_m Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 That's a 100% crop, I should have probably mentioned that. I have tried the newspaper on the wall test but with mirror lockup disabled. Image was not as sharp at 200mm as it was at 70mm. Plus, as careful as I was, I cannot be 100% sure that the paper was parallel with the camera. Same with the dreaded 45 degrees test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmen_m Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 So for landscape photography mirror lockup might be unecessary? What about at dawn/dusk or at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo_dark Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 To my understanding... infinity varies on focal length, temperature, air pressure etc. So according to any average lens, 'infinity' distance is variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I'm not sure, but maybe: 0.6 second exposure time negates much of the benefits of Mirror Lock Up. It seems to me, the longer the exposure, the less MLU matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Yep, MLU makes little or no diff most of the time. The sweet spot for MLU making a diff seems to be around 1/15 for many bodies. Longer exposures--5 sec--you can even get away with pressing the shutter with your finger... Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave chew Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 In regards to your infinity comment, the lenses are designed to focus past infinity on purpose. Supposedly to account for temperature changes. It also helps with an extension tube, because you have a little more leaway to focus farther out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 April 01, 2008 The writing looks slightly sharper on the MLU enabled shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Puppy Face has the right answer... MLU is most effective for shutter speeds between 1/30th and 1/4. With longer exposures, vibrations die down so as not to be noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcolwell Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Most manual focus lenses do not focus past infinity; they stop at infinity. Most autofocus lenses focus past infinity to allow the camera's AF control to determine where it's at sharpest focus - in order to find this for a subject at "infinity", the lens has to go past it, so the camera can detect the fall off in sharpness (or contrast, or phase, whatever is measured). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_lardizabal Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I rarely use MLU on short focal length lenses. The primary benefit is for longer lenses such as 400mm+ when shoot longer than 1 sec. such as this eclipse shot.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 MLU is only really useful for longer lenses and exposures between about 1s and 1/30s. I wrote this small article which explains why - http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/mlu.html If you have a good tripod on firm ground, you won't see much difference with a 200mm lens. Try it with a 600mm lens on a flimsy tripod and you'll see a difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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